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Old man said:
The trinity? Wrong!...

Just another pagan tradition of old...

"...the concept of the Ancient Pagan Trinity."

Here are some of the pagan triads.
http://apostolics.net/trichrt1.html
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Old man said:
Jn.1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (the Father) and the Word was God."

The Word became Jesus Christ the Son of God when becoming flesh born of flesh, a man just as you and I who was tested in all things and sinned not thereby becoming our sinless Savior who suffered and died for our sins, died (as it is given for all men once to die) was resurrected and now sits on the right hand of God the Father who will in due time return and resurrect His saints, all who have died in the faith.
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Old man said:
Hope that answers your questions.
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Indeed it answers many questions. Sigh.

Why do you have the label "Christian" when you clearly deny its very foundation? It seems you view Our Lord as a man who did all things perfectly and was granted divinity for His perfect obedience. This is grievous error and you have no warrant to call yourself "Christian" given these views.

Spoiler

Our Lord was fully God and fully man in an indissoluble union whereby the second person of the Trinity assumed a human nature that cannot be separated, divided, mixed, or confused.

One can best understand this mystical union (together united in one subsistence and in one single person) by examining what it is not, thus from the process of elimination determine what it must be.

The union of the divine nature and the human nature in the Person of Jesus Christ is not:

1. a denial that our Lord was truly God (Ebionites, Elkasites, Arians);
2. a dissimilar or different substance (anomoios) with the Father (semi-Arianism);
3. a denial that our Lord had a genuine human soul (Apollinarians);
4. a denial of a distinct person in the Trinity (Dynamic Monarchianism);
5. God acting merely in the forms of the Son and Spirit (Modalistic Monarchianism/Sabellianism/United Pentecostal Church);
6. a mixture or change when the two natures were united (Eutychianism/Monophysitism);
7. two distinct persons (Nestorianism);
8. a denial of the true humanity of Christ (docetism);
9. a view that God the Son laid aside all or some of His divine attributes (kenoticism);
10. a view that there was a communication of the attributes between the divine and human natures (Lutheranism, with respect to the Lord's Supper); and
11. a view that our Lord existed independently as a human before God entered His body (Adoptionism).


How do you fare with a simple test:
https://challies.typeform.com/to/I1ntTT

:AMR:

A mere man could not render a sacrifice of infinite value from God, that could atone for millions of people from, every tribe, nation and tongue (Rev. 5:9). A mere man could not have withstood the immense suffering and agony that Jesus endured. A mere man could not intercede or mediate between God and man. Who but the Lord of glory, the God-man could endure the unmitigated infinite wrath of God that millions deserved in the space of a few hours? Who but God’s only begotten Son could intercede simultaneously for millions of believers twenty four hours a day? “For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross” (Col. 1:19-20). There is no other name under heaven by which men can be saved (Acts 4:12). Animals, prophets, gurus and mighty angels cannot save. Only Jesus Christ, who is both God and man in one person, meets all the exigencies arising out of God’s nature and men’s predicament. (HT: Schwertley)

AMR
 
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Ask Mr. Religion said:
Indeed it answers many questions. Sigh.

Why do you have the label "Christian" when you clearly deny its very foundation? It seems you view Our Lord as a man who did all things perfectly and was granted divinity for His perfect obedience. This is grievous error and you have no warrant to call yourself "Christian" given these views.

Spoiler

Our Lord was fully God and fully man in an indissoluble union whereby the second person of the Trinity assumed a human nature that cannot be separated, divided, mixed, or confused.

One can best understand this mystical union (together united in one subsistence and in one single person) by examining what it is not, thus from the process of elimination determine what it must be.

The union of the divine nature and the human nature in the Person of Jesus Christ is not:

1. a denial that our Lord was truly God (Ebionites, Elkasites, Arians);
2. a dissimilar or different substance (anomoios) with the Father (semi-Arianism);
3. a denial that our Lord had a genuine human soul (Apollinarians);
4. a denial of a distinct person in the Trinity (Dynamic Monarchianism);
5. God acting merely in the forms of the Son and Spirit (Modalistic Monarchianism/Sabellianism/United Pentecostal Church);
6. a mixture or change when the two natures were united (Eutychianism/Monophysitism);
7. two distinct persons (Nestorianism);
8. a denial of the true humanity of Christ (docetism);
9. a view that God the Son laid aside all or some of His divine attributes (kenoticism);
10. a view that there was a communication of the attributes between the divine and human natures (Lutheranism, with respect to the Lord's Supper); and
11. a view that our Lord existed independently as a human before God entered His body (Adoptionism).


How do you fare with a simple test:
https://challies.typeform.com/to/I1ntTT

:AMR:

A mere man could not render a sacrifice of infinite value from God, that could atone for millions of people from, every tribe, nation and tongue (Rev. 5:9). A mere man could not have withstood the immense suffering and agony that Jesus endured. A mere man could not intercede or mediate between God and man. Who but the Lord of glory, the God-man could endure the unmitigated infinite wrath of God that millions deserved in the space of a few hours? Who but God’s only begotten Son could intercede simultaneously for millions of believers twenty four hours a day? “For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross” (Col. 1:19-20). There is no other name under heaven by which men can be saved (Acts 4:12). Animals, prophets, gurus and mighty angels cannot save. Only Jesus Christ, who is both God and man in one person, meets all the exigencies arising out of God’s nature and men’s predicament. (HT: Schwertley)

AMR
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If Christ was not a man of flesh born of flesh (Jn.1:14, Phil.2:7-8) He could not have died for our sins, if God He could not have suffered and died, God can not die.

Christ died as all men have and will and was resurrected unto eternal life being the first born of many to follow.
 
Town Heretic

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Old man said:
If Christ was not a man of flesh born of flesh (Jn.1:14, Phil.2:7-8) He could not have died for our sins, if God He could not have suffered and died, God can not die.
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Not unless you equate body and soul. The body is perishable. It will die, one way or the other. How it dies is frequently important, never more so than in this case.

Christ died as all men have and will and was resurrected unto eternal life being the first born of many to follow.
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Men had been crucified before and were after. So it is something within the nature of the death. And that something was attested to by the pharisees when they took umbrage at Christ forgiving sins. They understood, and rightly, that only God could pardon sin.
 
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Old man said:
"Misrepresenting Catholic and Orthodox thought", I could care less of Catholic or Orthodox (men's) thoughts.

From the minds (thoughts) of men come all false man made religions.

Men's "thoughts" mean nothing, "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.
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And you apply this rule to everyone's thoughts, but your own?
 
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Bright Raven said:
Why did the reformation occur?
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Exactly

:rotfl:

Let's not talk about how half the western world got sick and tired of the Catholic Church. Or that the Church had long been drunk on the blood of the Saints, and took the fruits of the Apostles and oppressed the world with them.
 
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Town Heretic said:
Not unless you equate body and soul. The body is perishable. It will die, one way or the other. How it dies is frequently important, never more so than in this case.


Men had been crucified before and were after. So it is something within the nature of the death. And that something was attested to by the pharisees when they took umbrage at Christ forgiving sins. They understood, and rightly, that only God could pardon sin.
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Jn.5:19, 30 and 8:28
 
everready

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brewmama said:
That's a lot of manure. Try studying some actual church history.
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i hear that a lot some go as far as to say the same about Foxes book of Martyrs.

"After the Bible itself, no book so profoundly influenced early Protestant sentiment as the Book of Martyrs. Even in our time it is still a living force. It is more than a record of persecution. It is an arsenal of controversy, a storehouse of romance, as well as a source of edification." - James Miller Dodds, English Prose.

http://biblebelievers.com/foxes/findex.htm


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brewmama said:
Constantine was a ruler of Rome, not the Church. Did you not know that?
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Catholics think he's the White Horse in Revelation.

Because Preterism.
The inevitable counter to the Reformers declaring the Church the Idolatress of Babylon :chuckle:
 
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