ECT The Answer to the Problem of Unanswered Prayer

patrick jane

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i received exactly what i payed for , i always do. sometimes prayers aren't answered overnight, but over time. you will never prove that prayers aren't answered. i just proved they are. i'm done. your tiny mind can't grasp the spiritual. KEEP Praying Oscar ! ! ! Jesus wants to answer YOUR prayers !
 

0scar

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In few words...you have not a tiny clue on how prayer really work.
so sorry for you.

1 - prayers do not wwork as teach and preached in the churches. in the cchurches it is say and repeat that prayer have power to provide you what you need. in christnian bokkstores there is more books about powerfull prayer than anything else. it is all a falsety calling people to come to the church to pray... and pay tithe or ofrends.

2 - prayer does not work as teach by Jesus in the Gospels. Jesus was teaching how to pray to israel for when the Kingdom of Heaven arrived. But Isreal refuses to accept Christ and the Kingdom did not caame yet. All those teachings and promesses are not in force for us, and not until the Kingdom came

3 - the actual prayer works aas we can see in acts and in the letters of Paul.
 

oatmeal

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AGAIN: any real life example of a pray being made in the correct basis and being actually answered?

Yes, I asked God to let me help those who needed a second chance to realize love is there for them.

He has given me that opportunity many times.

I probably learned more from those situations then any other experiences.

The lady who is my friend now is a result of prayer.

As a faithful minister told me, when you meet her, it will be worth the wait.

I told this lady on maybe our second date, "it was worth waiting 61 years to have this dinner with you"

God knows how to answer prayers perfectly
 

patrick jane

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no, ur right. prayer don't work. stop asking everyone. we all lie about it. we don't pray the proper way, like The Bible tells us. we just imagine things and make up stories in our head to say our prayers were answered. you caught us. we tried to fool you but you saw right through it. teach us how we must pray, oscer
 

0scar

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There is an explanation on why your prayers dont are answered...you have not a tiny clue on how prayer really work.
so sorry for you.

1 - prayers do not wwork as teach and preached in the churches. in the cchurches it is say and repeat that prayer have power to provide you what you need. in christnian bokkstores there is more books about powerfull prayer than anything else. it is all a falsety calling people to come to the church to pray... and pay tithe or ofrends.

2 - prayer does not work as teach by Jesus in the Gospels. Jesus was teaching how to pray to israel for when the Kingdom of Heaven arrived. But Isreal refuses to accept Christ and the Kingdom did not caame yet. All those teachings and promesses are not in force for us, and not until the Kingdom came

3 - the actual prayer works aas we can see in acts and in the letters of Paul.
 

0scar

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i'm gathering numerous scriptures to show prayer working and how to pray, since you like the facts. see ya soon:sam:

What i am saying is:
the promesses of Jesus in the Gospels concerning prayer, were given only to the people of Israel, and only for the time the King of Heaven were arrived. Since the people of israel rejected Jesus as the Christ,
since the Kingdom of heaven did not arrive yet, all those techings and promesses of Jesus during his ministery, are NOT IN FORCE. they are not aplicaable for us and now.
 

0scar

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not one single example of an prayer being actually answered to no one of you.
what a poor spiritual life you have
a religious life of pretending anf fakeing
 

0scar

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i'm gathering numerous scriptures to show prayer working and how to pray, since you like the facts. see ya soon:sam:

see me soon? how long is it soon?
did you finish gathering scriptures to show that preayers actually works in the manner and way the present time pators and books teach?
did you?
we are waiting for. or is it that you could not found any scripture? is it that prayer as presented by today's pastors and books are fake, false, failure?
 

Livelystone

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do you have any specific example of a pray actually being answered to you, that you can share with us?

People tell you they do and you respond by calling them liars and fake.

My ministry has a history of miracles but when I needed one who did I call?

I called a friend who teaches what I wrote in my book and he got his bible class together along with some members of a ministry we were together in years ago within the federal prison system. Originally he was my teacher but as time went on he realized the anointing on me was the same as on him and one other person that he knew who had been called to a higher level of worship than the normal status quo.

Long story short I was diagnosed through X-rays of my shoulders taken because of a kiteboarding injury starting late last spring that revealed both of the upper thirds of my lungs were filled with cancer........ not just a few tumors but were each one large mass of cancer. Edit: I smoked cigarets albeit mostly out in my garage for over 40 years and only quit 18 months ago. I also smoked a lot of pot for close to thirty years and am considered by the medical profession to be a high risk for lung cancer

The confirmation Xray was just taken just this past monday (Dec 29) and on tuesday I woke up under a death sentence

I called my friend who is the only man in the world I could trust to pray for me and lay hands on me if necessary.

It rattled him just as it had rattled me and I told him the only thing I could pray that morning was "Father, somehow let this be to your glory but no matter what please do not let me waver because I thank you and praise you for all of the mercies and knowledge you have shared with me."

When I went in to see the specialist assigned to me on tuesday I made it clear that either God would heal me or I would die, I would not accept any form of treatment, after all how I could after seeing so many miracles from my own prayers being answered. IMO, if God was allowing this to happen to me then so be it.

The new doctor in charge did not disagree with the opinions of the radiology staff and doctors and the conclusion of the orthopedic personal who stumbled on my cancer while looking for the cause of pinched nerves in my neck and back more or less said, "you have something much more important to address" as the VA only has so much money and none to waste on those whom they cannot help.

On Tuesday after I had prayed the little I did and putting my trust in my friend to lift my situation up before God, I agreed to the doctors request for one more set of dedicated pictures of the whole of both lungs that came back completely cancer free......... Praise the Lord !!!

Everybody felt so bad before then because I am way more active and look much healthier than others many years younger (I am about to turn 64 and there are some other issues surrounding this case that are becoming known so I am limited for now as revealing everything)

All of the doctors from the three departments involved agree that two X rays with a lengthy time in between them both reveal advanced cancer in both of my lungs but the final picture taken after the prayers made prove something they cannot explain how it has happened because both of my lungs are now cancer free.

Now we have hospital personal who prior to this did not believe in miracles telling others what they witnessed happing to me

When the rest of the church learns to worship in spirit and in truth, they too will see signs and wonders

For that matter when a ministry is not witnessing miracles, 99 times out of 100 because of the sin of false doctrines (such as raptures and two future resurrections 1000 years apart) being taught by said ministry
 
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0scar

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you are absolutely correct: I cal YOU a liar.
you shall go across your country healing every single healt problem.
I am use to deal with christians pretending to cure desieses
 

0scar

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I should like, love, to hear of a normal christian, not with one with super-powers. I should like, love, to hear how he/prayed for something normal, not a super spectacular miracle, and having his/her pray answered.
 

nodelink

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If you are looking for a genie to come out of a bottle and grant your wishes, you may be following another religion but Jesus Christ never offered that promise.

We can pray prayers centered on the Kingdom of God as in "(May) Thy Kingdom come and Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:10).

These Kingdom-centered prayers began when Jesus Christ Incarnate was fulfilling his first mission on Planet Earth approximately 2000 years ago. These types of prayers are still awaiting total fulfillment and the Second Coming of Jesus.

We can pray seeking mercy and grace (Hebrews 4:16).

Or, we can pray amiss and get no answers (James 4:3).

We can pray to cast our cares upon Him who cares for us. (1 Peter 5:7).

Prayer can be duty or delight. Enjoy the journey. :).
 

0scar

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If you are looking for a genie to come out of a bottle and grant your wishes, you may be following another religion but Jesus Christ never offered that promise.

We can pray prayers centered on the Kingdom of God as in "(May) Thy Kingdom come and Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:10).

These Kingdom-centered prayers began when Jesus Christ Incarnate was fulfilling his first mission on Planet Earth approximately 2000 years ago. These types of prayers are still awaiting total fulfillment and the Second Coming of Jesus.

We can pray seeking mercy and grace (Hebrews 4:16).

Or, we can pray amiss and get no answers (James 4:3).

We can pray to cast our cares upon Him who cares for us. (1 Peter 5:7).

Prayer can be duty or delight. Enjoy the journey. :).

I am glad that finally somebody agree with me, Thank a lot for your participation.
Prayer is not like the most of the churches teach: "ask and recieve". That have never work in any christian.
 
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