annabenedetti
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Honest question, fool. Do you really admire Trump?
Some electors flipped after all
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Honest question, fool. Do you really admire Trump?
annabenedetti
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No.
Some of the greatest monarchs in history were inexperienced before being crowned, why can't that be the case for presidency?
Experience is overrated- the worst Presidents had it. Moreover, Hillary has it and she's a walking disaster
That's what you all have thrown at literally everyone and everything opposed to you for the past eight straight years. Trump is none of those things, you're all just slandering degenerates who don't care about being seen as professional liars.
Daniel1769
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You may as well. The Democrat party is probably going to be the minority party in Congress for the foreseeable future because you and other Democrats have chosen to make it so.
annabenedetti
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
what, like from a seconds and clearance china store?
Daniel1769
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I didn't vote.
yep, laws will continue to be passed to stop the infiltration of marxist regressive left ideologies & the left will continue to run to the high court when they cannot win at the ballot box's in their respective states.
That is a two way street, Obama got to nominate two justices with the consent of this congress, they were not going to fill that seat nor were they even entertaining it just before an election, and that is not a novel or unprecedented action either, it has happened before. The people decided when they elected a new president who would pick that replacement, and so it should be, so please feel free to whine all you want, to the victor go the spoils...
It's rather funny you call the left regressive. It's the right that's regressive.
I guess according to your ideology but, from where I and half the nation is standing the left is regressive attempting to regress into another failed attempt at marxism/socialism. Keep it, the people have spoken and we chosen liberty...freedom from an ever expanding intrusive government that feels that it has the right to steal from those that achieve, to give to those who don't even put forth the effort in the name of pseudo equality. That would be regressive, there is nothing progressive about the lefts ideology, after unpacked it is the same ole, same ole failed marxist nonsense.
Wrong, that would be a majority of states 2 to 1 that was able to capture this election 30 states Trump 20 states Clinton. If the only place you can sell it is in the big cities in 20 states you will keep losing, and if Trump manages to put a jingle back in the pockets of those in the rust belt he will have sealed up those states for 8 years not just 4.
I am counting on you & Nancy Pelosi to keep telling yourselves that, the greater portion of states has had enough of your schtick but, you would never see that employed on a college campus removed from average Americans and their plight, liberalism doesn't do a thing for them but, enslave them to entitlements, over-taxation, and job killing over-regulation...thats not liberty.
You keep telling yourself that too, the reality was nobody was buying it anymore, especially from a dirtbag candidate like the felon Hillary, she was destined to lose from the get go.
Popular vote doesn't win presidential elections Alate, and never has so, you need to get over that & sell a message all people can buy ,not the marxist schtick...it just aint getting it done for ya.
China shops make me nervous.
Have you ever walked down an aisle of a china shop
They make those aisles narrow for a reason...:chuckle:
musterion
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Calm thyself, brother. I was using irony to illustrate the jackassed hypocrisy of leftists -- they said an elector can and should follow conscience and refuse to honor any oath IF it meant denying Trump their vote. It apparently never occurred to them that twice the number of electors would be faithless toward Clinton. So if following conscience by refusing to elect Trump is okay, then doing the same with regard to Clinton must also be okay.
But no leftist thinks that.
musterion
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No, sorry. I didn't in either 08 or 12.
Only one of the Clintons ran for office...and she beat your guy except by those imaginary lines that allow for an EC unpopular vote total. So we have one dead political career and one zombie about to take office.
The right can't allow it. The thing that popular vote told you was that even as unpopular within her party as Hillary was, she could beat the Republican nominee among the people. The EC is the only way for them to hold onto power while they try to build a connection to the young and minorities, assuming they try. If not, you'll just have to wait a while and they'll sort themselves out...of power. Personally, I hope they find that connection, because it will mean a return of the reasoned, moderate Republican and the death of this strangle hold the hard right has on the party.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
bill's been dead politically for years
Alate_One
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Is there any evidence that someone that succeeds (or at least doesn't fail badly) in business is effective in government?
annabenedetti
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Well said.
Daniel1769
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Only one of the Clintons ran for office...and she beat your guy except by those imaginary lines that allow for an EC unpopular vote total. So we have one dead political career and one zombie about to take office.
The right can't allow it. The thing that popular vote told you was that even as unpopular within her party as Hillary was, she could beat the Republican nominee among the people. The EC is the only way for them to hold onto power while they try to build a connection to the young and minorities, assuming they try. If not, you'll just have to wait a while and they'll sort themselves out...of power. Personally, I hope they find that connection, because it will mean a return of the reasoned, moderate Republican and the death of this strangle hold the hard right has on the party.
I would argue that the "hard right" has no handle on the Republican Party. They elected a former Democrat, Pelosi and Reid donor that supports a trillion dollar stimulus bill, more regulation of the economy, and new social programs. Not to mention that he's no concerned with the old right social issues like same sex marriage and abortion. If the right wing has a handle on the GOP, they didn't show it by electing a liberal. If they follow Trump's lead, the Republican Party will be at the center-left where the Democrats were 8 years ago, and the Democrats will be over near Lenin on the political spectrum.
Alate_One
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California is going to buck Trump's federal changes hard. It'll be interesting to hear about states rights then.
It wasn't right before an election and yes it was unprecedented. Your side simply believed you *owned* that seat and when it went away . . . Republicans couldn't handle the notion that Obama could nominate Scalia's replacement. So they balked. If the shoe is on the other foot, expect the same treatment.
Um. There never was an attempt at marxism or socialism, not in this country anyway.
It's easier for you if you just believe simplistic explanations, reality is more complex.
Trump won Michigan by a slight margin of only 10,704 votes but won Wisconsin by 22,177 votes and Pennsylvania by 70,799 votes. In several cases those vote margins were far larger than the third party votes. There's also the fact that democratic turnout was depressed, while republican turnout was not and still it was amazingly close.
There's a heck of a lot of purple counties, everywhere.
And you can keep believing that. But if you poll the american people on the issues. They say they want the things democrats are offering.
Democrats haven't had a Marxist message, in decades if ever. Then again your definition of marxism might be Medicare. So . . .Popular vote doesn't win presidential elections Alate, and never has so, you need to get over that & sell a message all people can buy ,not the marxist schtick...it just aint getting it done for ya.