Shooting Suspect Was on School Rifle Team That Got NRA Grant

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The troubled teen authorities say killed 17 people at a Florida high school excelled in an air-rifle marksmanship program supported by a grant from the National Rifle Association Foundation, part of a multimillion-dollar effort by the gun group to support youth shooting clubs and other programs.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, was wearing a maroon shirt with the logo from the Army Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps program at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School when he was arrested Wednesday shortly after the shooting. Former JROTC cadets told The Associated Press that Cruz was a member of the small varsity marksmanship team that trained together after class and traveled to other area schools to compete.

https://www.necn.com/news/national-...-Rifle-Team-That-Got-NRA-Grant-474330713.html

And the NRA successfully paid enough congressmen to repeal a law restricting mentally-ill people from buying guns.
 

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There were 17 of them like that. And two parents for every student shot and killed.

All because Trump signed a bill making it possible for the mentally-ill to buy guns.

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And because the NRA trained the shooter.

They did their jobs well.
 

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There were 17 of them like that. And two parents for every student shot and killed.

All because Trump signed a bill making it possible for the mentally-ill to buy guns.

And because the NRA trained the shooter.

They did their jobs well.

This is such a tragedy ... one of which Trump and the GOP are partially responsible. No reasonable, decent person or party would ever work to specifically give the mentally ill access to dangerous weapons. The only logical conclusion: greed and apathy.
 

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There were 17 of them like that. And two parents for every student shot and killed.

All because Trump signed a bill making it possible for the mentally-ill to buy guns.

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And because the NRA trained the shooter.

They did their jobs well.

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So, the school has an JROTC program that has a shooting team that the NRA gave 10 thousand dollars to and your take away from that is;
And because the NRA trained the shooter.
Not the school trained the shooter.
Not the JROTC trained the shooter.
You think the NRA trained the shooter.
Because they gave Kevlar blankets and safety glasses to them.
What color is the sky in your world?
 

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This is such a tragedy ... one of which Trump and the GOP are partially responsible. No reasonable, decent person or party would ever work to specifically give the mentally ill access to dangerous weapons. The only logical conclusion: greed and apathy.

Horsecrap Rusha, nothing of the kind happened.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/trump-gun-legislation-mental-health/index.html

The regulation, finalized in December under Obama's tenure, required the Social Security Administration to disclose information quarterly to the national gun background check system about certain people with mental illness.
While the list of eligible mental disorders is long -- ranging from anxiety to eating disorders to schizophrenia -- those who would have been reported by the agency had to meet two main criteria: a) They were receiving full disability benefits because of a mental illness and couldn't work and b) they were unable to manage their own benefits, thus needing the help of a third party to do so.
It's also not clear -- and perhaps unlikely -- that the man accused of terrorizing the high school in Parkland and killing 17 people there would have met either of the criteria laid out to be reported under that rule.
What's more, the rule Trump rescinded was opposed by both the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Rifle Association, so it wasn't exactly universally hailed.

Peoples access to guns comes from their rights. If you want to deprive someone of their right you need a reason and receiving your benefits because you have an eating disorder shouldn't be a reason.
 

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So, the school has an JROTC program that has a shooting team that the NRA gave 10 thousand dollars to and your take away from that is;

That this kid took the program and became a good shot. Training he used when he killed 17 students.

That, and Trump signing a law that made it easy for the mentally-ill to obtain guns made his objective possible.
 

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Peoples access to guns comes from their rights. If you want to deprive someone of their right you need a reason and receiving your benefits because you have an eating disorder shouldn't be a reason.

He didn't have an eating disorder. He talked about becoming a school shooter. Trump and the NRA made his goal possible.
 

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That this kid took the program and became a good shot. Training he used when he killed 17 students.
But the NRA didn't train him the SCHOOL trained him. Do you understand that?
That, and Trump signing a law that made it easy for the mentally-ill to obtain guns made his objective possible.
This guy was collecting Social Security for being mentally disabled?
You got a cite on that?
 

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So let's see: The NRA gives grants to teach kids gun safety, safe gun practices and the correct way to use a gun. That's a great thing. So far so good.

Then, one moron goes insane, probably due to the liberal freak show society created by the Left, and he violates everything he was taught and kills people.

Conclusion: The NRA did a great thing for kids, and in an entirely unrelated event some freak influenced by Liberalism killed a bunch of people.

I think that about sums up this ridiculous thread.


 

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He didn't have an eating disorder. He talked about becoming a school shooter. Trump and the NRA made his goal possible.
What a rotten thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself for blaming the President of the United States or "connecting" him in any way to this tragedy. Don't forget that the dems controlled everything for 8 long years and the people have passed laws that aren't being enforced. Blaming Trump and the NRA is ridiculous. The NRA supports the 2nd Amendment and spends money to do it, like the dems spend a fortune also for lobbyists and control the media and the gun control the narrative and regurgitate it non-stop.

The people vote and the Congress starts bills and enact laws, not the President or the NRA. Do you ever tire of your habitual deception tactics? We already know the FBI is tainted and has an overall bias against Trump. If anything is to blame it's whoever got these warnings and did nothing. Was that Trump or a Trump "appointed" officer of the law that should have done something to stop this? You are a dirty dem and lower than a snake for saying that. And you whine about a fake Obama meme. Shame on you.
 

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The Barbarian believes:"He didn't have an eating disorder. He talked about becoming a school shooter. Trump and the NRA made his goal possible."
What a rotten thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself for blaming the President of the United States or "connecting" him in any way to this tragedy. Don't forget that the dems controlled everything for 8 long years and the people have passed laws that aren't being enforced. Blaming Trump and the NRA is ridiculous. The NRA supports the 2nd Amendment and spends money to do it, like the dems spend a fortune also for lobbyists and control the media and the gun control the narrative and regurgitate it non-stop.

The people vote and the Congress starts bills and enact laws, not the President or the NRA. Do you ever tire of your habitual deception tactics? We already know the FBI is tainted and has an overall bias against Trump. If anything is to blame it's whoever got these warnings and did nothing. Was that Trump or a Trump "appointed" officer of the law that should have done something to stop this? You are a dirty dem and lower than a snake for saying that. And you whine about a fake Obama meme. Shame on you.
The barb is too ashamed to reply. I would be too.
 

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What a rotten thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself for blaming the President of the United States or "connecting" him in any way to this tragedy. Don't forget that the dems controlled everything for 8 long years and the people have passed laws that aren't being enforced. Blaming Trump and the NRA is ridiculous. The NRA supports the 2nd Amendment and spends money to do it, like the dems spend a fortune also for lobbyists and control the media and the gun control the narrative and regurgitate it non-stop.

The people vote and the Congress starts bills and enact laws, not the President or the NRA. Do you ever tire of your habitual deception tactics? We already know the FBI is tainted and has an overall bias against Trump. If anything is to blame it's whoever got these warnings and did nothing. Was that Trump or a Trump "appointed" officer of the law that should have done something to stop this? You are a dirty dem and lower than a snake for saying that. And you whine about a fake Obama meme. Shame on you.

Best post ever P.J. !!

I would like to add to that;

"I don't listen to lectures on morality from baby killers."
 

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The troubled teen authorities say killed 17 people at a Florida high school excelled in an air-rifle marksmanship program supported by a grant from the National Rifle Association Foundation, part of a multimillion-dollar effort by the gun group to support youth shooting clubs and other programs.

Nikolas is also apparently mentally ill:

Friends of the family, neighbors and students said they thought he was mentally ill, but didn't know what exactly he suffered from
His defense attorneys believe he has depression and is autistic
One relative said he was at one time prescribed medication for his 'emotional difficulties'
A local official said Cruz received mental health treatment at one point but stopped getting that treatment more than a year ago

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-did-Nikolas-Cruz-receive.html#ixzz57Q2YX3dh


Why was this kid ever given guns to play with in the first place?
 

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Barbarian observes:
He didn't have an eating disorder. He talked about becoming a school shooter. Trump and the NRA made his goal possible.

What a rotten thing to say.

It's true. And you know it wasn't about people with eating disorders. The NRA sponsored a program that taught a kid who expressed interest in shooting up a school, how to shoot accurately. Those are just facts, and eating disorders have nothing to do with it.

You should be ashamed of yourself for blaming the President of the United States or "connecting" him in any way to this tragedy.

Trump's one piece of gun-related legislation undid restrictions aimed at mental illness
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/trump-gun-legislation-mental-health/index.html

Don't forget that the dems controlled everything for 8 long years

So you're saying the democrats forced Trump and the NRA to make it easier for the killer to get guns? Show us that.
 
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