ECT Seeking list of Hebrews verses from MADs/D'ists that are allowed for Christians

musterion

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Your cartoons are worthless; you'll need to show an exact problem.

That is truly what is going on in the innovative use of 'kata' in Gal 5. Your problem is a complete lack of heart rejuvenated, refreshed by the Spirit of God in the sense of the new covenant.

the main feature of the new covenant, says the OT text, is THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Do you some idea why?
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Interplanner said:
Not at all. The passage is actually about the LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Do you have any idea why?
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So it is "proper" to ignore what Christ said, what Paul recapped, and then taught in another letter but you have to do Judah and Israel and ignore what 10:1-18 says? Got it. This whole thing is a fraud and the only people who believe it are here in this ghetto.
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You say the NC has already been finalized and is now in action.

Show these ignorant ghetto dwellers who, by name, was the party that God made the NC with when it was put into action.
 
themuzicman

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way 2 go said:
Israel fell and did not except
and still has not excepted their messiah . . . yet .

Rom 9:32 Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone,

Rom 11:25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Jews are more than welcome to become Christians and join the gentiles in the dispensation of grace
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
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And those Jews who do believe will be part of the pot prepared for glory.

But the rest of Israel, those who are blinded, are part of the pot prepared for wrath.
 
Tambora

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So it is "proper" to ignore what Christ said, what Paul recapped, and then taught in another letter but you have to do Judah and Israel and ignore what 10:1-18 says? Got it. This whole thing is a fraud and the only people who believe it are here in this ghetto.
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Listen up.
I kept asking who the scriptures says the new covenant was made with.
You avoided the two verses in the bible that specifically say who the new covenant was made to like the plague.
And we know why.

Jeremiah 31:31 - spoken in the OT
Hebrews 8:8 - confirmed in the NT
 
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SaulToPaul said:
When did the LORD restore the years the locust have eaten?
That is why.
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Why do find such eccentric lines when there is Heb 10:1-18. You people talk like you are in charge of the OT.

Furthermore, no NT passage that talks about these things speaks of the restoration you think will happen, and has no reason to. Not after Lk 21, and I Thess 1, the full wrath of God.
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Why do find such eccentric lines when there is Heb 10:1-18. You people talk like you are in charge of the OT.

Furthermore, no NT passage that talks about these things speaks of the restoration you think will happen, and has no reason to. Not after Lk 21, and I Thess 1, the full wrath of God.
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When did the LORD restore the years the locust have eaten?


Have you taken the time to count up how many years need to be restored?
 
way 2 go

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Yep, and that will be the end of time. There is no reversion back to Judaism coming after that. Why on earth would there be, with all that has happened, and with all that is written about wrath on Israel being poured out in the destruction of Jerusalem?
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no end of time and
Jesus will rule with a rod of iron .

Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

The partial hardening, says the first verses of ch 11, has been there all along. Paul had to keep teaching that because of the mistaken belief that there was something automatic about being in Israel by birth. There is not. There must be faith.
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no, it says a remnant has been there all along

Israel still has not accepted their messiah . . . yet .
 
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way 2 go said:
no end of time and
Jesus will rule with a rod of iron .

Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.


no, it says a remnant has been there all along

Israel still has not excepted their messiah . . . yet .
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accepted.
 
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way 2 go said:
no end of time and
Jesus will rule with a rod of iron .

Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.


no, it says a remnant has been there all along

Israel still has not excepted their messiah . . . yet .
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The partial hardening and the remnant are parts of the same whole! They are not in conflict any more than 1/3 conflicts with 2/3 in the number 1.

Where did you get the idea that Israel will accept Messiah, and what good does it do for the Jews of 400 AD if the Jews of 2100 AD accept Messiah ? That is not what 'all Israel will be saved' is about at all. It is about the new Israel that he defined since ch 9.
 
SaulToPaul 2

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No, that question is answered in Rom 3:3 and 9:6 (or all of 9). Its that the land thing never was the final 'test' of God being honest. The final test was the blessing for all nations. All of God's promises are yes and amen in Christ.
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When did God restore the years the locust have eaten?

Did you count them up yet? How many does he owe them in the land? (1000)
1000 years sounds familiar in my "NT".
 
way 2 go

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The partial hardening and the remnant are parts of the same whole! They are not in conflict any more than 1/3 conflicts with 2/3 in the number 1.
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the majority of Israel have rejected

Where did you get the idea that Israel will accept Messiah, and what good does it do for the Jews of 400 AD if the Jews of 2100 AD accept Messiah ? That is not what 'all Israel will be saved' is about at all. It is about the new Israel that he defined since ch 9.
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Act 3:12 And when Peter saw it he addressed the people: “Men of Israel...

Act 3:19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out,
Act 3:20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus,

Act 3:26 God, having raised up his servant, sent him to you first, to bless you by turning every one of you from your wickedness.”
 
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