Salvation is not cheap it is FREE

Grosnick Marowbe

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Do you think Jesus' commands are funny?

You're trying your best to live under the law. That's your choice. You're
not gonna influence others who live under God's Grace. So, why you
keep trying is very odd. You don't attend any church, Temple, or Cult,
so why try to "SAVE" your fellow posters? Your salvation is anti-Christian.
We live in the Dispensation of Grace according to the Bible.

God is dealing with mankind differently than He did in the
Old Testament. The message for today is, God's Grace received
through our faith. Your preaching is a "work related" belief
system. God does not accept that system today. Your beliefs
are "archaic." You're seeking to gain God's acceptance through
your good works and so called obedience. You'll not get very far
while standing before God at the final judgement and telling Him;
"I tried real hard to earn eternal life." God will not accept that
excuse. You're lost and headed for judgement unless you listen
to the Grace Gospel and place ALL your faith in Christ as your Savior?

Your good works do not match Christ's shed blood on the cross of
Calvary.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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The Bible says, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God."
(The Bible) You must be saved by "Grace alone." God's free gift through
Christ's shed blood for our sins and His subsequent resurrection.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Eternal life cannot be earned, bought, or worked for. It is given as a free gift
from God. You cannot be a Christian by name only. You must become a member
of the Body of Christ. You must be indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit. You
must receive freely the righteousness of Christ through faith in His death and
resurrection.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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There is only one baptism for today and that is, when the Holy Spirit
baptizes you into the Body of Christ. Salvation is a Spiritual process.
The only "Physical" part of ones salvation is when they hear the Gospel
and place their faith in Christ as their Savior. The rest is a work of the
Holy Spirit.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Christ took upon Himself the sins (past, present, and future) of ALL mankind.
However, only those who place their complete faith in Christ and none in
themselves, will reap the benefits of His death and resurrection. Those who
reject the Gospel will die (physically) someday and spend time in a place of
torment called Hades/Hell. Then, when the final judgement comes about, they
will be taken from Hell/Hades and stand before God the Father and be judged
by their "works." After which, they will be cast into the Lake of Fire with the
Devil and his angels, where they will spend eternity in torment. The Bible
speaks of all of this.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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The unsaved do not sleep in the ground until Judgement. They suffer torment
in Hell/Hades. The worst happens after the judgement. The Lake of Fire awaits
the unsaved population. Read the Old Testament. God doesn't mess around.

What He states will happen, will happen. It will be horrendous for the unsaved.
It's frightening/scary and inescapable. Once you die and you leave this world,
there is no hope for you. It's best to take this subject very seriously.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Once you close your eyes in death, and if you're unsaved (without
Christ) you will find yourself in a place of horrifying unending torment. Hades/
Hell. A place for the eternally damned. Your horrible existence has just begun.

You'll someday be taken out of Hell and find yourself standing before a righteous
God. Because, you rejected His Son, you'll be judged by your works and be
cast into the Lake of fire for eternity.

Other unsaved will be there with you, along with Satan and his fallen angels. Eternal
suffering will be yours forever.
 

jamie

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Do you think Jesus' commands are funny?

No, it was your answer that was funny.

Jesus did. Jesus says "if you love Me, keep My commands".

Salvation comes before the obligation to keep his commands. Don't you realize the natural human mind cannot keep Jesus' commands?

That's the way we are designed. It's perfectly natural to sin, everybody does it.
 

meshak

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No, it was your answer that was funny.



Salvation comes before the obligation to keep his commands. Don't you realize the natural human mind cannot keep Jesus' commands?

So what you are saying is Jesus commands something we cannot keep.
 

beloved57

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We consent, we agree, we RECIEVE, we believe and we close the deal.

False Teaching, Christ closed the deal. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God [saved from the penalty of their sins] while they are enemies. That closed the deal. You deny Christ and promote Salvation by what a person does !
 

jamie

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So what you are saying is Jesus commands something we cannot keep.

We can not keep the commands of the Father or Son without God's Spirit.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14 NKJV)​
 

meshak

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We can not keep the commands of the Father or Son without God's Spirit.

No one says we can keep without help of the HS.
Jesus' standards are super high, there is no way we can keep without the help of the HS.

Jesus says anything is possible with God's help. He is talking about the HS obviously.
 

meshak

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Not perfectly, no.

Romans 3:23
James 2:10

No one will keep all His commands perfectly. The HS will fill our imperfect part.

God is seeking our sincere heart. That's what it is to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind."
 

Totton Linnet

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So what you are saying is Jesus commands something we cannot keep.

Are you saying that you love God with all your heart, soul and mind?

Are you saying you are not a brazen liar?

Even if it were possible you would not be saved because obeying laws do not produce salvation....salvation is by faith.

You have not achieved salvation yet so it is not likely that you will be able to achieve it before you die...you will die in your sin.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Jesus was speaking those "commands" to the Lost sheep of Israel. Not, to us
Gentiles. Are you a member of the House of Israel Meshak?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Are you saying that you love God with all your heart, soul and mind?

Are you saying you are not a brazen liar?

Even if it were possible you would not be saved because obeying laws do not produce salvation....salvation is by faith.

You have not achieved salvation yet so it is not likely that you will be able to achieve it before you die...you will die in your sin.

She has said; "I don't know if I'm saved?" She only believes in
the four Gospels and rejects the rest of the Bible.
 
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