President Trump on a mission from God

[Danoh]

Just how are conservatives going to rationalize that Donald Trump is a Christian, given that he does not ask for "forgiveness?"

Same way one gets to Carnegie Hall - practice, man; practice...

O wait; what's that sign say in the dumpster in that dark alley behind their church....oh, wait - I see it now...

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God" - Luke 16:15.

 

[glorydaz]

There's your so called Mid-Acts Grace in action for ya, TOLers.

You and yours are only fooling yourselves and one another, Nick.

Like attracting like; it is no surprise you and yours voted for a pathological bigot who is bringing himself down before all the world to see, by his own hand.

Never mind "the reward of the inheritance" you and yours spit on daily.

1 Corinthians 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Regrettably, there is no reasoning with you and yours on the poor path you have made yours.

To attempt to do so is to set off more of the same in you.

Truly, pathetic.

May you soon recover yourselves from your self-imposed snare.

Sincerely, Nick.

There isn't a sincere bone in your body, Danoh. One would think you'd tire of playing the hypocrite, but I guess it just comes natural for you. :nono:

 

[glorydaz]

The Bible indicates that narcissistic, womanizing, billionaire casino owners rarely make God's "short-list" when it comes to choosing those to serve as His messengers!

Are conservative Christians really that desperate that they would now embrace Donald Trump, with all his personal baggage, as their hero?

Oh yeah, and certainly not someone like David who lusted after and stole another man's wife and then sent him off to die in battle. God never would choose someone with that kind of baggage. :chuckle:

 

[glorydaz]

So, the dude who says that he grabs women's genitals against their will is going to protect your daughters? Good plan.

He didn't say it was against their wills. This is how fake news starts.

 

[glorydaz]

That's his assessment. The fact that no one has punished him for it yet doesn't equal consent.

You cannot be that naive. The bimbos that hang around billionaires are offering their wares. He wasn't talking about walking up to a Sunday school teacher and grabbing her. I'm not sure why you guys have to pretend like you don't understand the ways of the world. :nono:

 

[jgarden]

Oh yeah, and certainly not someone like David who lusted after and stole another man's wife and then sent him off to die in battle. God never would choose someone with that kind of baggage. :chuckle:

Conservative Christians are now portraying Donald Trump as a modern-day
"David?"

At least David repented for his sins - "The Donald" is of the opinion that he has done nothing that requires "forgiveness!"

Stranger than fiction - nobody could make this stuff up!

 

[glorydaz]

Much ado about nothing . Trans individuals have been going into women's rooms for years and no one even knew . They appear female . There has yet tone a single example of a trans person bothering, molesting , attacking or raping women or girls there.
Men don't just disguise themselves as women with the intention of harming them . More Republican politicians in congress and elsewhere have been arrested for sexual shenanigans in men's rooms with other men than trans individuals for bothering and molesting women and girls in rest rooms .
Priests , pastors and preachers are a much greater threat to children OUTSIDE rest rooms than in them .
Trump is just pandering to mindless fear and hatred of trans people . This is despicable. America has far greater problems .

That MAY have been true when men were sneaking around pretending to be women. But NOW, it's a ticket to use disguise as a means of entering girl's restrooms for other purposes.

"Hey, with this new law, I can say I'm a girl and get in free." As with any other law, once it is made, it's begging to be broken.

 

[glorydaz]

Conservative Christians are now portraying Donald Trump as a modern-day
"David?"

At least David repented for his sins - "The Donald" is of the opinion that he has done nothing that requires "forgiveness!"

Stranger than fiction - nobody could make this stuff up!

I was not portraying Trump as David....typical LIBERAL SPIN.

All men sin and come short of the glory of God, so your attempts to make Trump worse than other people is stupid. Your thoughts are just as bad as any of Trump's actions. Once again, you're twisting words to make them say what you want. One needs only believe to be saved, so your requirements of "repentance" and asking for forgiveness do not purport with the Gospel of Salvation. Perhaps you'd best rethink your condemnation of others and look more to yourself.

 

[jgarden]

You cannot be that naive. The bimbos that hang around billionaires are offering their wares. He wasn't talking about walking up to a Sunday school teacher and grabbing her. I'm not sure why you guys have to pretend like you don't understand the ways of the world. :nono:

TRANSCRIPT OF DONALD TRUMP'S BUS CONVERSATION

Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

Bush: "Whatever you want."

Trump: "Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."

http://www.voanews.com/a/transcript...h-billy-bush-of-access-hollywood/3542128.html

- I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait.

- And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

- "Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."

"Gloeydaz" would prefer to characterize Trump's young female victims as "bimbos" rather than hold "The Donald" responsible for his actions!

The transcript of Trump's recorded conversation indicates that as a "star" he feels "entitled" to "grope" women," operating under the assumption that they all find him irresistible!

We are all witnesses as to how verbally abusive Donald Trump becomes when someone says “NO” - are we to believe that without witnesses, he is not above threatening to terminate their careers if they were to resist!

During the campaign, Trump threatened to take all those who accused him of making unwanted sexual advances to court - that will never happen because it would allow them to expose in detail, his sexual history to the nation.

 

[Danoh]

There isn't a sincere bone in your body, Danoh. One would think you'd tire of playing the hypocrite, but I guess it just comes natural for you. :nono:

Coming from a Trumper; your words somehow ring as shallow as you have proven to be.

So be it; no point in any continuing to attempt to reason with your ever convenient "grace."

You continue to prove yourself as self-deluded as those you defend.

I leave you to the dust of my feet.

Regrettably,

 

[Danoh]

- I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait.

- And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

- "Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."

"Gloeydaz" would prefer to characterize Trump's victims as "bimbos" rather than hold "The Donald" responsible for his actions!

The transcript of Trump's recorded conversation indicates that as a "star" he feels "entitled" to "grope" women," operating under the assumption that they all find him irresistible!

We are all witnesses as to how verbally abusive Donald Trump becomes when someone says “NO” - are we to believe that without witnesses, he is not above threatening to terminate their careers if they were to resist!

It's no use - they are too far gone in their double-standards; you're only beating your fists against a whited wall.

Might as well attempt to reason with Trump even as he continues to spiral himself further and further down the twilight zone of his gradually worsening corruption of his very soul by his own hand.

 

[jgarden]

I was not portraying Trump as David....typical LIBERAL SPIN.

All men sin and come short of the glory of God, so your attempts to make Trump worse than other people is stupid. Your thoughts are just as bad as any of Trump's actions. Once again, you're twisting words to make them say what you want. One needs only believe to be saved, so your requirements of "repentance" and asking for forgiveness do not purport with the Gospel of Salvation. Perhaps you'd best rethink your condemnation of others and look more to yourself.

I don't need to twist anything - Trump has condemned himself based on his own words in video and the transcript of his conversation with Billy Bush.

Its a tortured "theology" that contends that one can become a Christian without acknowledging or repenting for sin.

 

[Crucible]

Much ado about nothing . Trans individuals have been going into women's rooms for years and no one even knew . They appear female .

So then why are you trying to appropriate a law and force it down everyone's throat?
That's the intent, and you're calling us 'bigots' for not playing your game.

And
You don't go free the restraints on something based on minimal consequence with it restrained- that's the outlandishly stupid philosophy with you all, the same as Muslim immigration.

There has yet tone a single example of a trans person bothering, molesting , attacking or raping women or girls there.

That's not true at all, your gay worshiping media just isn't going to make a national headline out of such cases.

 

[jgarden]

... One needs only believe to be saved, so your requirements of "repentance" and asking for forgiveness do not purport with the Gospel of Salvation. Perhaps you'd best rethink your condemnation of others and look more to yourself.

Is Repentance Necessary for Salvation?

It is true that there are numerous Bible verses that speak of the promise of salvation, with no mention of repentance. These merely say to "believe" on Jesus Christ and you shall be saved (Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9).

However, the Bible makes it clear that God is holy and man is sinful, and that sin makes a separation between the two (Isaiah 59:1,2). Without repentance from sin, wicked men cannot have fellowship with a holy God. We are dead in our trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1) and until we forsake them through repentance, we cannot be made alive in Christ.

The Scriptures speak of "repentance unto life" (Acts 11:18). We turn from sin to the Savior. This is why Paul preached "repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ" (Acts 20:21). The first public word Jesus preached was "repent" (Matthew 4:17). John the Baptist began his ministry the same way (Matthew 3:2). Jesus told His hearers that without repentance, they would perish (Luke 13:3).

If belief is all that is necessary for salvation, then the logical conclusion is that one need never repent. However, the Bible tells us that a false convert "believes" and yet is not saved
; he remains a "worker of iniquity." Look at the warning of Scripture: "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth" (1 John 1:6). The Scriptures also say, "He that covers his sins shall not prosper, but whoso confesses and forsakes them [repentance] shall have mercy" (Proverbs 28:13). Jesus said that there was joy in heaven over one sinner who "repents" (Luke 15:10). If there is no repentance, there is no joy because there is no salvation.

When Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost, he commanded his hearers to repent "for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38). Without repentance, there is no remission of sins; we are still under His wrath. Peter further said, "Repent . . . and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19). We cannot be "converted" unless we repent. God Himself "commands all men everywhere [leaving no exceptions] to repent" (Acts 17:30). Peter said a similar thing at Pentecost: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you" (Acts 2:38).

If repentance wasn’t necessary for salvation, why then did Jesus command that repentance be preached to all nations (Luke 24:47)? With so many Scriptures speaking of the necessity of repentance for salvation, one can only suspect that those who preach salvation without repentance are strangers to repentance themselves, and thus strangers to true conversion.

https://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/isrepentancenecessaryforsalvation.shtml

This addresses ""glorydaz's" contention that one can have salvation without repentance of sin.

Salvation and repentance for sin are inseparable.

 

[jgarden]

The Paranle of the Sower (Luke 8:11-15)

11 “This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God.

12 Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.

13 Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.

14 The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.

15 But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.

Salvation, without repentence, is where the word of God fails to take root, falls on rocky ground or among thorns!

 

[ClimateSanity]

He didn't say it was against their wills. This is how fake news starts.

That's the point I was trying to make and rexxy boy tries to dig into my personal life to make an insult and Danoh calls me a rapist.

 

[Crucible]

If obedient Christians are the ones responsible for Trump being in office, than Trump was brought into office by the graceful will of God.
But God also ushers in leaders that will punish a nation. I believe Obama was elected because Christians went too fast with their war horse, and now Trump is in to heal the lashes.

 

[Danoh]

That's the point I was trying to make and rexxy boy tries to dig into my personal life to make an insult and Danoh calls me a rapist.

For the second time - I was NOT calling you a rapist.

I don't even know you, let alone; well enough to make such an assertion.

Never mind; see it how you need to. I have attempted to clear things up; that is good enough for me.

 

[Crucible]

The Bible indicates that narcissistic, womanizing, billionaire casino owners rarely make God's "short-list" when it comes to choosing those to serve as His messengers!

You're conflating prophets with leaders

And

You need to brush up a bit on what is known of the biblical Patriarchs, because they were not sinless by any means :chuckle:

 

[Arthur Brain]

You cannot be that naive. The bimbos that hang around billionaires are offering their wares. He wasn't talking about walking up to a Sunday school teacher and grabbing her. I'm not sure why you guys have to pretend like you don't understand the ways of the world. :nono:

So everyone Trump leans in to kiss are 'just offering their wares'?

Still, as long as he has 'tic tacs' on him eh?

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