Planned Parenthood caught selling body parts of aborted babies

[Jose Fly]

Wow. PP sure paid a lot in mere shipping and handling to be reimbursed that much.

So what do you think is a reasonable price to pack, handle, and ship organs and tissues?

 

[Sancocho]

Does anything like this even matter to liberals?? Their lust for blood seems unwavering. Part of me think liberals actually like this kind of stuff.

Speaking of lust for blood the homicide rate in the US is supposedly 4.7, or 14,750 homicides div. by the pop. of 314M x 100,000.

However, including abortions it is 21,000, which is 49 times higher than WWII homicide rate of 429.

This is calculated by understanding the homicide rate is the number of homicides divided by the number persons at risk of homicide x 100,000. For abortion 21% of all American who become pregnant have an abortion when multiplied by 100,000 comes up to a homicide rate of 21,000.

For this reason abortion is the number one cause of homicide in the world, by a very large margin 437,000 to 26,000,000 for a factor of 59.

 

[Jose Fly]

This is yet another reason why Breitbart isn't considered a credible news outlet..

On January 10, 2013 StemExpress procured 22 specimens from the Mar Monte Planned Parenthood Clinic, most of which were “maternal blood.” Nine specimens, however, were from aborted babies, including two livers, one thymus, and the rest were what is called fetal chorionic villi, which are connective tissue that allows the flow of blood from mother to baby.

Ok, so again nothing illegal here.

According to an internal rate-sheet apparently used at the time by StemExpress, Planned Parenthood would have received between $15 and $45 per specimen depending on the specimen provided and the over all number provided. Body parts like livers, lungs, hearts, testis, and rectums paid the most with umbilical cord blood paying the least.

As we've been over, those reflect the packing, handling, and shipping costs which PP is entitled to be reimbursed for. Honestly, I'm surprised it only costs $45 (at most) for that. The tissues and organs have to arrive in good condition for research. It's not like wrapping and shipping a book.

Based on the documents provided by the Center for Medical Progress it is estimated that the San Jose facility took in $425 that day, including $240 for fetal body parts. This may seem minuscule, but it adds up. Assuming this was a typical day and that the facility is open at least six days a week, the facility could have made $1,440 a week and $74,880 each year on baby body parts.

They didn't "take in" that much, they were reimbursed that much. So let's say $240 a day for fetal body parts. At $45 per specimen, that's about 5 specimens.

Breitbart is looking very desperate.

 

[Granite]

This is yet another reason why Breitbart isn't considered a credible news outlet..



Ok, so again nothing illegal here.



As we've been over, those reflect the packing, handling, and shipping costs which PP is entitled to be reimbursed for. Honestly, I'm surprised it only costs $45 (at most) for that. The tissues and organs have to arrive in good condition for research. It's not like wrapping and shipping a book.



They didn't "take in" that much, they were reimbursed that much. So let's say $240 a day for fetal body parts. At $45 per specimen, that's about 5 specimens.

Breitbart is looking very desperate.

If PP is so utterly diabolical, so obviously wicked, so demonstrably satanic, then it shouldn't be necessary to release edited videos that don't hold up to a day's scrutiny. Also, why did they sit on this for so long? Cui bono?

 

[Jose Fly]

If PP is so utterly diabolical, so obviously wicked, so demonstrably satanic, then it shouldn't be necessary to release edited videos that don't hold up to a day's scrutiny. Also, why did they sit on this for so long? Cui bono?

Exactly. If the facts truly were on their side, they wouldn't need to be so dishonest in making their case.

 

[Sancocho]

If PP is so utterly diabolical, so obviously wicked, so demonstrably satanic, then it shouldn't be necessary to release edited videos that don't hold up to a day's scrutiny. Also, why did they sit on this for so long? Cui bono?

That is only valid if the population has not been manipulated into believing human beings in the womb are not human. Throw in the way statistics are manipulated to mislead about the magnitude of lives lost and yes many people can be led into thinking PP is not diabolical.

 

[Sancocho]

Exactly. If the facts truly were on their side, they wouldn't need to be so dishonest in making their case.

You mean like PP's manipulation of facts and statistics?

 

[musterion]

I see you two have received new talking points. How refreshing.

 

[Jose Fly]

You mean like PP's manipulation of facts and statistics?

So whaddya got? Another Breitbart article? Lifesitenews? Whirled Nut Daily?

 

[musterion]

Good doggie.

 

[Granite]

I see you two have received new talking points. How refreshing.

:rotfl: :chuckle:

:rotfl:

 

[bybee]

So what do you think is a reasonable price to pack, handle, and ship organs and tissues?

Would that be the abortionists organs and tissue?

 

[Stripe]

Exactly. If the facts truly were on their side, they wouldn't need to be so dishonest in making their case.

Here are facts:
Nearly 1 million abortions happen every year in the US alone.
You don't care.

 

[gcthomas]

That is only valid if the population has not been manipulated into believing human beings in the womb are not human.

Talking about manipulative behaviour, you are aware that the western Christian church taught that abortion was not murder between the 5th and 16th centuries? St. Augustine, St. Jerome, Theodore, Pope Innocent III, Pope Gregory XIV and St. Thomas Aquinas all said that killing an unanimated foetus was not murder.

You are arguing, in effect, that 'liberals' want a return to common Christian though of the middle ages, not they are anti-Christian in their outlook.

 

[bybee]

Talking about manipulative behaviour, you are aware that the western Christian church taught that abortion was not murder between the 5th and 16th centuries? St. Augustine, St. Jerome, Theodore, Pope Innocent III, Pope Gregory XIV and St. Thomas Aquinas all said that killing an unanimated foetus was not murder.

You are arguing, in effect, that 'liberals' want a return to common Christian though of the middle ages, not they are anti-Christian in their outlook.

Only a dead foetus is unanimated. One feels life's fluttering as of butterfly wings anywhere from the third month onward.
Those were the pronouncements of men. Men do not know what pregnancy is.

 

[gcthomas]

Here are facts:
Nearly 1 million abortions happen every year in the US alone.
You don't care.

If the US was running a real holocaust with gas chambers for school children, killing a million a year, there would be open armed rebellion and military attacks from abroad from a wide coalition of nations.

But life goes on as normal, and none of the objectors on this forum have claimed to have done anything more serious that write a strongly worded letter to their church. This tells me that, despite the manufactured outrage, abortions are not generally seen as equivalent to murder.

 

[Granite]

Only a dead foetus is unanimated. One feels life's fluttering as of butterfly wings anywhere from the third month onward.
Those were the pronouncements of men. Men do not know what pregnancy is.

Then they should be excluded from the discussion completely. Right?

 

[musterion]

Here are facts:
Nearly 1 million abortions happen every year in the US alone.
You don't care.

Well, he hasn't pretended to. I wonder which kind of pro-abort he is: the "it's just tissue" kind, or the "yeah, it's a human baby, so what" kind.

 

[jeffblue101]

This is yet another reason why Breitbart isn't considered a credible news outlet..
Ok, so again nothing illegal here.
As we've been over, those reflect the packing, handling, and shipping costs which PP is entitled to be reimbursed for. Honestly, I'm surprised it only costs $45 (at most) for that. The tissues and organs have to arrive in good condition for research. It's not like wrapping and shipping a book.
They didn't "take in" that much, they were reimbursed that much. So let's say $240 a day for fetal body parts. At $45 per specimen, that's about 5 specimens.
Breitbart is looking very desperate.

Are you incapable of reading facts that already disproves what PP lies about.

lastly, there are no costs to be reimbursed it's all profit for the harvesting mills.

On the video Nucatola is heard talking about pricing, that “specimens” would range from $30 to $100. It is expected that Planned Parenthood will claim these charges are merely for their services and do not include a profit. Daleiden told Breitbart News that there are no extra services because companies like StemExpress are there at the facility to harvest the organs on order and walk out with them, not even shipping charges.

Daleiden said that while the practice goes on around the country, it is especially hard to prosecute in California because of the political power of the abortion industry.

The buying and selling of human body parts is illegal under the U.S. Criminal Code though companies can charge for expenses. The question becomes how a “multi-million dollar” for-profit company buys fetal body parts and sells them but makes no profit.

Repeated calls to StemExpress for a comment have gone unreturned. The company website crashed sometime today.

Threre is no shipping, packaging or storage costs for PP harvesting mills. The stem express body parts collecter is on site to collect same day.

 

[Jose Fly]

lastly, there are no costs to be reimbursed it's all profit for the harvesting mills.

Threre is no shipping, packaging or storage costs for PP harvesting mills. The stem express body parts collecter is on site to collect same day.

Because some guy said so? Not only that, but the reimbursement also covers things like staff time and supplies required.

Surely you're not arguing that there's absolutely no cost to PP for this?