Here is Bush protecting the Christians in the Middle East with the biggest Christian lover of all. . .
awwww
i liked the other one better
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i liked the other one better
One Ugly Christian
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Ever heard of Germany? Japan?
One Ugly Christian
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Here is Bush protecting the Christians in the Middle East with the biggest Christian lover of all. . .
EEETTTTHHHH AAAAAAAGGGG---Is that a real photo. I didn't know Bush was gay. Is that how he got AIDS?
Fagot Bush also referred to Islam as "one of the great religions of the world" several times. He was weak in every way and we're still paying the consequences because of it.
And this is the second time today I've agreed with a lib---definitely seeing my shrink today
drbrumley
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Christian Liberty
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The US was guilty of mass murder in that war. Sorry but that's just fact.
Do you need a tissue or are you going to stop crying about that?
Lighthouse whimpers piteously about one journalist murdered by ISIS, and tries to hand wave away the killing of tens of thousands of innocent women and children in WWII air raids.
You might want to look up the Japanese propaganda films of civilians [men, women and children] training to fight from WWII.
One Ugly Christian
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You know, when I posted that thread about how evolutionists says that magic mushrooms will expand your mind I didn't mean for you to actually TRY THEM.
Lexington'96
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But that's different! German and Japanese lives just aren't worth as much as Americans apparently.
What do you think would happen if Japan attacked mainland America? Civilians with their Second Amendment rights would fight back. Does that mean that Japan would have the right to firebomb us?
One Ugly Christian
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Sorry, didn't mean to ignore your questions about what I think should be done about ISIS.
It's obviously to our advantage to have the support of as many Western powers as possible. We do not need Saudi Arabia, Libya, Egypt and several others and there's no need to get them involved. It just spreads radicalism. Of course the Kurds and Iranians are already involved so it's obvious we should use and support them as much as practical. [Though after Bush screwed the Kurds over so massively in the first Gulf War it's amazing they'd ever trust us again.] For once in his 5 years, Barrack Osama might actually be doing something right by trying to bring in the Iranians. I'm not sure about that idea but if anybody could kick ISIS butt it's the Iranians.
Basically though, we can't depend on most anybody else except perhaps the British. We have to be prepared to go it alone as it's foolish to rely on the European liberal/socialist or on sick Moo-slum countries and their leaders like those in S Arabia. I have a friend who's came up with a much more complete plan including a plan for "winning the victory" after we defeat ISIS. I'm trying to get permission to post it here.
Sorry, didn't mean to ignore your questions about what I think should be done about ISIS.
It's obviously to our advantage to have the support of as many Western powers as possible. We do not need Saudi Arabia, Libya, Egypt and several others and there's no need to get them involved. It just spreads radicalism. Of course the Kurds and Iranians are already involved so it's obvious we should use and support them as much as practical. [Though after Bush screwed the Kurds over so massively in the first Gulf War it's amazing they'd ever trust us again.] For once in his 5 years, Barrack Osama might actually be doing something right by trying to bring in the Iranians. I'm not sure about that idea but if anybody could kick ISIS butt it's the Iranians.
Basically though, we can't depend on most anybody else except perhaps the British. We have to be prepared to go it alone as it's foolish to rely on the European liberal/socialist or on sick Moo-slum countries and their leaders like those in S Arabia. I have a friend who's came up with a much more complete plan including a plan for "winning the victory" after we defeat ISIS. I'm trying to get permission to post it here.
There were a few desultory attacks. Explosives on balloons, submarines surfacing, and shelling some sites on the coast. And a pretty determined invasion of the Aleutian Islands.
They would have, if they had the means.
Barbarian observes:
Lighthouse whimpers piteously about one journalist murdered by ISIS, and tries to hand wave away the killing of tens of thousands of innocent women and children in WWII air raids.
So we burned to death all those women and children so they couldn't harm us?
Yer a real piece of work, Lighthouse.
BTW, when we took Okinawa, there were tens of thousands of Japanese/Okinawan civilians there. None of them fought us, other than the hundreds of Okinawan men who were conscripted by the Japanese to help defend the island. Many committed suicide, believing that we would torture them, but no women or children fought us.
Lighthouse whimpers piteously about one journalist murdered by ISIS, and tries to hand wave away the killing of tens of thousands of innocent women and children in WWII air raids.
So we burned to death all those women and children so they couldn't harm us?
Yer a real piece of work, Lighthouse.
BTW, when we took Okinawa, there were tens of thousands of Japanese/Okinawan civilians there. None of them fought us, other than the hundreds of Okinawan men who were conscripted by the Japanese to help defend the island. Many committed suicide, believing that we would torture them, but no women or children fought us.
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Japan was partnered with the Nazis, who were committing the atrocities of the Holocaust.
If there were videos of all the so-called innocent civilians of the ISIS countries shouting "Death to America," would you have a problem with wiping them out?
Lexington'96
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Because our ally, the Soviet Union, was so much better.
If I shouted "death to Canada," should the Canadian military wipe me out?
Christian Liberty
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No, I'm not "crying" for all of the innocents who were killed. Maybe I should, but I don't. I'm not emotional about what happened in the past. I DO get emotional about the idea that people can actually say things like this and be applauded in American churches rather than called on to repent and THROWN OUT if failing to do so like they should.
I think the American church borders on being dead.
This. ISIS is not NEARLY as murderous as the United States government. Putting things in perspective is incredibly important.
I don't use any of them. Read this:
http://www.outsidethecamp.org/atrocities.htm
Don't be silly, Lexington. Only America is so sacred that even uttering a desire to destroy it should be enough reason to watch your entire country get carpet bombed
Stupid America-worshippers are not Christians. The more I think about how there are very likely many people in every single American church that think like LH does, the more I get downright depressed and wonder where I really belong.
The Bible says the gate is narrow. I'm beginning to think the gate is REALLY narrow. There's no way a Christian can be this callous regarding human life. A Christian can certainly be brainwashed into thinking that a war is necessary "to defend our freedom" or to support a bad economic policy. But can a Christian outright support the murder of innocents for some "greater good"? Can a Christian support the murder of unborn children for some supposed "greater good"? Because I don't see the difference.
Were they committing genocide?
I talk about an entire country where all citizens want all the citizens of another country dead and support groups who are taking steps to bring that about and you offer a single individual citizen in rebuttal? Were you born in '96?
Why did God command the Israelites to wipe out entire nations when going to war with them?
No, I'm not "crying" for all of the innocents who were killed. Maybe I should, but I don't. I'm not emotional about what happened in the past. I DO get emotional about the idea that people can actually say things like this and be applauded in American churches rather than called on to repent and THROWN OUT if failing to do so like they should.
I think the American church borders on being dead.
This Charming Manc
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Do you understand the difference between sunni and shia?
There is a shia-sunni civil war going on at the moment.
Isis are Sunni based terrorist group fighting the Shia primarily, but the west and minorities secondary.
For the US to ally with IRAN makes this a shia- sunni conflict and it escalates.
To involved the Sunni states makes this a Sunni government -terrorist thing and stop ISIS making this a crusade for all Muslims.
There is a shia-sunni civil war going on at the moment.
Isis are Sunni based terrorist group fighting the Shia primarily, but the west and minorities secondary.
For the US to ally with IRAN makes this a shia- sunni conflict and it escalates.
To involved the Sunni states makes this a Sunni government -terrorist thing and stop ISIS making this a crusade for all Muslims.
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Christian Liberty
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Your example is stupid. There is obviously no country in which all citizens think the same thing. You are using "all" in a limited rather than absolute sense when discussing who supports massacre of civilians, yet are using it to justify killing people indiscriminately. Which is either stupid or dishonest even if we take your facts at face value. Ambiguous terms are problematic.
How is this relevant? God owns human life, he gives it and takes it away. Of course, God had a good reason, but its irrelevant, and it doesn't give you a right to endorse mass murder.
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Asperger's strikes again.
I wasn't being literal. It was an illustrative point.
So god didn't delegate authority to man and we cannot have valid reasons for doing the same thing God commanded others to?