I have to say that Town Heretic is a babbling brook, his response to me was absolutely nonsensical and ridiculous.
Then I'd have to say you might want your reading level looked into.
Look at his responses to me for a moment and you will see why the Left cannot even be engaged:
I'm still not left because I'm left of you.
I said: There is more than enough gun control.
TH responded: To accomplish what?
What does that even mean?
It means you have made a statement I take issue with and have. To simply declare there's enough of a thing isn't to say much more than, "No!" to any contrary position.
Worse, for you, it's a sword with two edges. For instance, there isn't "enough" gun control to put public safety remotely on the same footing as every other Western Industrial Democracy.
I said that have more than enough gun control, as in regulations to make sure that things are safe and not misused, just like with cars and everything else. But a stack of regulations from here to the moon will never stop a person who is intent on misusing a device.
Simply untrue if you mean enforced regulations. And there's ample evidence in every other Western Industrial Democracy.
I said: We reach a point where people just have to live with the fact that, in this world, people kill people; always have, always will.
TH responded: If physicians had that attitude not long ago, in the scheme of things, we'd still have polio ravaging our ranks.
So he is comparing people dying of disease with the fact that murder happens?
No, I'm saying and wrote that if doctors felt about diseases the way you feel about gun control we'd still be dying in droves from infection, to give you another example.
What sort of ignorance is this.
No sort at all, unless you're being reflective.
I noted that in this world, people kill people; always have, always will. That's the truth, and you cannot stop it. What does that have to do with doctors searching for cures? That response made me wonder if this Town Hall bloke was missing a few cards from his deck.
Supra.
I said: It happens (killing). Move on and live your life.
TH responded: Unless, of course, you happen to be in a church, or at a concert, or in a school where someone who loves that idea is about to open fire.
Again, TH has no context. I am talking about being worried about every single thing across the planet, and how that will just bog you down in life. He is talking about being right on the spot when something happens, an entirely different conversation. I am now wondering if this person is even on the same planet as the rest of us.
What I'm speaking to is the blaise attitude you take toward other people's suffering and how your part is largely to support the status quo, which invites its needless continuance.
I said: If we get wadded up over every bad thing that happens on the planet we will never be able to just live life.
TH responded: And if we don't do the good we can do we'll get the world we ask for.
What? One more time: We HAVE done the good we can.
Well, no, which is why we're so far behind every other Western Industrial Democracy in terms of public safety where guns are concerned.
That was the point of my post in the first place. I said that here is more than enough gun control.
Yes. You declared the heck out of your sentiment, but it was unsupported by reason or fact. So you didn't leave me much to work with.
So we have done all the good we can. What TH proposes is NOT good.
I propose laws that, where they have been enacted, have led to far safer conditions for the general populace. That is prima facie a public good. You defend the status quo, which is prima facie inferior as an instrument of that safety.
Strangling regulation and oppressive regulation and too many laws is never “good” and it is interesting that he thinks they are.
Any law strangles freedom. The question is, the freedom to accomplish what? And therein lies your problem and your part's deficiency.
We have enough. No law will stop what happened.
Rather, the right laws can make what happened much less likely and the people safer, as they are in every other Western Industrial Democracy.
If someone wants to kill people they will.
And yet, in places where laws restricting the guns and aids of the sort I'm speaking to exist the murder rates are appreciably lower and the mass shooting incidents lower still.
Only a fool thinks that laws written in some capitol can stop that.
Only a fool thinks the absence of good law is safety and the enactment of good law endangers.
