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annabenedetti

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Musk isn't hiding his intent to reactivate Trump's account. The left can't meme. This is exhibit A.

You missed the point. Musk isn't hiding his intent to reactivate Trump's account. He's hiding the reason for his intent.

But beyond that, it's interesting you see political cartoons and memes as interchangeable when they're related but not the same, and it's telling that you see memes as a weapon in the 'us against them.'

Memes do seem to be the weapons of the right more than they are of the left but I don't necessarily think the right's better at them. I know you'll never see it any other way, which is part of the whole right-wing belief framework that you're right about everything and everyone who doesn't agree with you is always wrong/evil/needs to be put down like a wild dog.

Your side definitely weaponizes memes, often with completely fake info or images, but it's unifying for your side and that's part of the intent. Some images are code and your fellow travelers know the code. And burying conversations in flurries of memes is tactical.

I don't dislike memes. Some of them are very good, and some are good because they're so intentionally bad. In one sense they're the people's way of taking political commentary in their own hands, away from the actual (or perceived) social status of professional cartoonists. The political cartoon I posted is actual artwork, drawn by a skilled artist. A meme creator takes digital images off the internet and mashes them together, often intentionally badly, because intentionally badly is part of the whole meme ethos. Anyone can make a meme, no artistic skill required. The message can be as fake or inflammatory as they want, there's no editorial constraint on them. So yes, very democratic. There's no small irony there that your meme creators are using a democratic form of communication to work towards an autocratic and unconstitutional revision of American government.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
You missed the point. Musk isn't hiding his intent to reactivate Trump's account. He's hiding the reason for his intent.
He publicly addressed advertisers, his intent is to make twitter a better business and that's a balance between allowing certain content and censoring others, all for the intent of maximizing ad revenue. If bringing former President Trump's account back to active status accomplishes this, then Mr. Musk will do it. I don't think he's hiding anything.
But beyond that, it's interesting you see political cartoons and memes as interchangeable when they're related but not the same, and it's telling that you see memes as a weapon in the 'us against them.'
There are still some good political cartoons out there, but in broad strokes it seems that the talent pool behind such work is gravitating toward making memes instead of political cartoons nowadays.
Memes do seem to be the weapons of the right more than they are of the left but I don't necessarily think the right's better at them. I know you'll never see it any other way, which is part of the whole right-wing belief framework that you're right about everything and everyone who doesn't agree with you is always wrong/evil/needs to be put down like a wild dog.

Your side definitely weaponizes memes, often with completely fake info or images, but it's unifying for your side and that's part of the intent. Some images are code and your fellow travelers know the code. And burying conversations in flurries of memes is tactical.

I don't dislike memes. Some of them are very good, and some are good because they're so intentionally bad. In one sense they're the people's way of taking political commentary in their own hands, away from the actual (or perceived) social status of professional cartoonists. The political cartoon I posted is actual artwork, drawn by a skilled artist. A meme creator takes digital images off the internet and mashes them together, often intentionally badly, because intentionally badly is part of the whole meme ethos. Anyone can make a meme, no artistic skill required. The message can be as fake or inflammatory as they want, there's no editorial constraint on them. So yes, very democratic. There's no small irony there that your meme creators are using a democratic form of communication to work towards an autocratic and unconstitutional revision of American government.
I agree that there's less artistry in memes but how much does that matter, when it's always been about the messaging, whether it's newspaper headlines, political cartoons, or memes?
 

7djengo7

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I know you'll never see it any other way,

Good call. Why would we want to leave off being correct in our thinking so as to join in agreement with you and thus start being wrong with you?

which is part of the whole right-wing belief framework that you're right about everything

If you don't think you're right in your way of thinking, then why do you continue on in your way of thinking?

and everyone who doesn't agree with you is always wrong

Well, duh. If you were right instead of wrong then we would be in agreement with you and you with us.


Well, that kind of depends upon the particular point of disagreement, obviously. But you, for instance, if I remember correctly, are an advocate of the murder of unborn babies, and that's evil.

/needs to be put down like a wild dog.

LOL

Huh??
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
... There are still some good political cartoons out there, but in broad strokes it seems that the talent pool behind such work is gravitating toward making memes instead of political cartoons nowadays.

I agree that there's less artistry in memes but how much does that matter, when it's always been about the messaging, whether it's newspaper headlines, political cartoons, or memes?
In case this isn't clear @annabenedetti it's always been about the message, and messaging. As far as I can tell, those generating memes are broadcasting a message pretty clearly, not requiring one to be a literature major and or appreciator to discern, like it sometimes does with some political cartoons. Cerebral memes like that never go viral. Memes are, like rock music, very simple. They don't even work as complex masterpieces, such as classical orchestra symphonies and such. Gen Z has no time for this, just thinks, "OK boomer" and moves on.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Good call. Why would we want to leave off being correct in our thinking so as to join in agreement with you and thus start being wrong with you?



If you don't think you're right in your way of thinking, then why do you continue on in your way of thinking?
How do you change it, if you do recognize through grace that your way of thinking is wrong? This is an important question, and I think it might take a practical answer, and not just a logical one. For example if you find your health is poorer than it should be, then the logical answer is to exercise perhaps. But the practical answer is, you need to start a walking regimen, six days a week, thirty minutes a walk, no excuses. The practical answer's also logical of course, it's just at a greater resolution than the logical answer I gave above. If you're going to start exercising then what should you do? The lowest effort option is walking. Studies find that 30 minutes a day is necessary for the "biggest bang for your buck" results for your health. Nothing needs to be done all seven days. God said so. So you need to start a walking regimen, six days a week, thirty minutes a walk, and no excuses. This is the minimum. The absolute least effort option, that still satisfies the condition that you improve your health.

So how do you improve your way of thinking? Practically? And logically too.
Well, duh. If you were right instead of wrong then we would be in agreement with you and you with us.



Well, that kind of depends upon the particular point of disagreement, obviously. But you, for instance, if I remember correctly, are an advocate of the murder of unborn babies, and that's evil.



LOL

Huh??
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
In case this isn't clear @annabenedetti it's always been about the message, and messaging. As far as I can tell, those generating memes are broadcasting a message pretty clearly, not requiring one to be a literature major and or appreciator to discern, like it sometimes does with some political cartoons. Cerebral memes like that never go viral. Memes are, like rock music, very simple. They don't even work as complex masterpieces, such as classical orchestra symphonies and such. Gen Z has no time for this, just thinks, "OK boomer" and moves on.
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