Our Creator engineered the process of birth. God never meant that "process" to be interfered with. By destroying (Murdering) the Fetus, it shows a total disregard for God's will and purpose. Is abortion, murder? Of course, it is. You're merely rationalizing the subject.
More leftist hypocrisy, nicely illustrated
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Our Creator engineered the process of birth. God never meant that "process" to be interfered with. By destroying (Murdering) the Fetus, it shows a total disregard for God's will and purpose. Is abortion, murder? Of course, it is. You're merely rationalizing the subject.
True, Sonny.
glassjester
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In Mr. Dante's example, the baby was already dead in the womb.
You can't kill someone that's already dead.
An abortion is the deliberate killing of a child in the womb.
So that was not an abortion.
Nor was it infanticide.
The child had already died naturally.
A corpse was removed from the mother.
'Perseverance of the Saints' is the proper OSAS- it states that the elect will persevere, and the condemned will not. Do you know what persevering isn't? Your free grace heresy, otherwise known as 'easy believism'.
Protestantism, bro. Go learn some :wave2:
Yes it is. In medicine, an abortion is the premature exit of the products of conception (the fetus, fetal membranes, and placenta) from the uterus. It is the loss of a pregnancy and does not refer to why that pregnancy was lost.
glassjester
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I am against the deliberate killing of a child in the womb (or anywhere else, really).
Does that clarify things?
glassjester
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Nice dodge.
glassjester
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Killing is one thing, murder is another. Killing in a time of war or to defend yourself or someone else is considered killing. Lying in wait and planning out the demise of another human being would be considered murder. There's a BIG difference between the two definitions. Therefore, Abortion would fall under the murder definition.
Is this a human?
It's part of the process of life, therefore, it should be considered the beginning of the process, therefore, should be considered a growing life form.
You, lecturing me, on protestanism? Good one. And like your Romanism, "Perseverance of the Saints" is another subtil form of works-based "salvation," i.e., I know I am saved, because my lifestyle tells me so.
Easy believ-ism, you cliche? Like your easy work-ism, you Christ rejector, relying on what you do, instead of what was already done or you,on your behalf, 2000+ years ago, by the dbr, and you are told to accept it, that gift, believe it as the sole solution to the sin/sins issue?
No, son of Cain-works is easy for the proud people, such as you, and Cain, and satan. What is not easy, is to shuck your presenting your filthy rags as a basis for your justification in front of a holy LORD God, and therefore rejecting the sole provision He provided, via the Lord Jesus Christ, Christ rejector. And you hate that, and, like Cain before you, in Genesis, you are grinding your wolf teeth, as you read this, and your face is fallen, and you want to kill me, and the other Abel's, of the world, Wolfie.
There are moral, ethical, and Spiritual reasons for not interfering with the birth process.
glassjester
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Yes.
Killing in self defense isn't really deliberate killing.
Meaning - the purpose of the action was not specifically to end the other person's life, but rather to stop their attack on yours.
Presumably, if you could have prevented your own death without killing the attacker, you would have preferred to do so.
True.
Luke 1 KJV
41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 and she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears,the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
You cannot spin this away, craftily dismiss it.
41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 and she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears,the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
You cannot spin this away, craftily dismiss it.
glassjester
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He will absolutely ignore this.
Greg Jennings
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Couldn't agree more. My mother works in a NICU as well. 26 weeks is well past 22 weeks, my personal cutoffi've worked on neonate preemies born at 26 week (6 month) gestational - the resources and money spent to help them survive is staggering
but worth it
