Martin Luther Comments on Free Will

Robert Pate

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Banned
The "hearing of faith" in Gal. 3:2 is only for those born of the Spirit,
and does not teach that an unregenerate person can have faith that pleases God.
But first Born of God, then comes hearing. Again, the dead cannot hear!

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

~~~~~


On the day of Pentecost, they heard the Gospel, they believed the Gospel and they were saved.

We hear the voice of God in the preaching of the Gospel.
 

Nanja

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One must be saved, of God to hear Gods Words Jn 8:47


So True!

Only those who were ordained / appointed, and Chosen of God Eph. 1:4-11
to an Eternal Inheritance / Eternal Life believed Acts 13:48.

The same are Christ's Sheep:

John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

~~~~~
 

beloved57

Well-known member
So True!

Only those who were ordained / appointed, and Chosen of God Eph. 1:4-11
to an Eternal Inheritance / Eternal Life believed Acts 13:48.

The same are Christ's Sheep:

John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

~~~~~
Amen!
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Dan P,

As a lost person under the wrath of God, I possessed no moral ability to participate in my own salvation. I was lost, in other words, I was

- deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9);
- full of evil (Mark 7:21-23);
- loved darkness rather than light (John 3:19);
- unrighteous, did not understand, did not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12);
- helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6);
- dead in my trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1);
- by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3);
- could not understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14); and
- a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

In other words, my inability to submit to God and do good was total (Romans 8:7-8; Ephesians 2:1; 2 Corinthians 4:4-6). My rebellion was wholly deserving of eternal punishment (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9; Matthew 5:29-30; 10:28; 13:49-50; 18:8-9; 25:46; Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10).

At the age of fourteen, I had heard about a local Baptist tent revival hosted by one Rev. Walter St. Claire in Kingsport, Tennessee. I was very curious about what went on at these revivals, so I hitchhiked to the meetings each night and to see Rev. St. Claire bring down fire and brimstone among those in attendance. Each night when I got home I would open my Bible to learn more about what I had heard. The things I had heard were hard sayings, "faith alone", "grace alone", "propitiation". In the days of no internet, all I had was my Grandmother's huge family Bible, so I would turn its pages hoping to understand some small part of what I had heard earlier that evening.

On the fourth of the five nights Rev. St. Claire was in town I returned home, again studying what I had heard. On this night, what I was reading from that evening's sermon, "Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand..." (Matthew 26:45), seemed to jump off the page. Yes! I was like the sleeping disciples, who had become so "comfortable" with the physical Lord they had been walking with, that I did not grasp Who Jesus really was and why He was sent by God. Now no tears came, no crying out for mercy, but only the washing over me a sense of tremendous peace as I prayed for God to grant someone unworthy like me His saving grace. That regenerative moment in my life set me on a journey in my walk of faith that still continues.

On that night, for God's own good purposes and glory, without considering anything He foresaw I had or may do (no foreseen personal merit), God took the initiative according to His eternal decree and plan for realization of His decree. God regeneratively replaced my "heart of stone" with "one of flesh" (Eze. 36:26) and I was simultaneously and irresistibly given the moral ability of belief in the Good News that was preached (i.e., the ordinary means of regeneration), an ability I did not possess beforehand. My ability to believe, previously lost to all Adam's progeny with his fall in the Garden, was such that I could not be inclined other than to believe. Indeed, as but and undeserving, repentant sinner, at the moment of my "re-birth" (regeneration) the greatest inclinations of my free will were the laying hold of the righteousness of Christ's works— His active and passive obedience, on my and all those on behalf of whom He came to actually (not possibly) redeem.

My new principle of life — my love for and trust of my Savior, Jesus Christ, fully God and fully man in one Person — flows from my new birth, not vice versa. I believe this is clearly taught in John 3:3 wherein our Lord tells us we cannot even see the kingdom of God unless we are first born again. If we cannot see the kingdom, we certainly cannot enter it; thus, regeneration precedes its fruitfaith—in some sort of logical manner. In regenerating my heart, the efficacious regenerative grace of the Holy Spirit opened my eyes, making me irresistibly able and thusly, inclined to obey in faith.

I do not forget that God does not look at my faith or knowledge as the ground of my justification but rather the ground of my justification is the finished work of Christ. Faith is the alone by which I, a sinner, cling to Christ and am now justified, solely by Christ's active and passive obedient works on my behalf and for others of whom Jesus came to render their salvation to actually deliver (not possibly deliver) them from the curse of the law, and from the power of sin.

In other words, my faith is the instrument, not the cause, which belongs to Christ alone, of my justification before God the Father.

My new life that came when the quickening power of the Holy Spirit transformed my heart did not eradicate sin’s presence from my life. Even as regenerated to a new life, after my heart was redirected towards the Savior, I still have great capacity for evil. While the power of sin to compel me to do evil is now broken, my ability to sin remains (Rom. 7:4–25), for I will never escape the noetic effects of sin until coming into my glory.

Therefore, I must do all that I can to put to death the lusts of my flesh. Most thankfully, my Lord is the author of my faith hence, He is also the finisher (Heb. 12:2) such that I will persevere to the very end and to my ultimate glory. Mine is an alien righteousness, one instilled from outside myself, that of Christ's (1 Corinthians 1:30). I always remember that regeneration was only the beginning of my walk, thus I am less surprised at my struggles with temptation and become more vigilant in mortifying my flesh.

for what He did for us,
AMR
What is the gospel of your salvation, then?
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
So True!

Only those who were ordained / appointed, and Chosen of God Eph. 1:4-11
to an Eternal Inheritance / Eternal Life believed Acts 13:48.

The same are Christ's Sheep:

John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

~~~~~
What a mess
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Then you dont believe in Jesus Christ and His Gospel !

You have the wrong Gospel.

Your Gospel was conceived by the mind of a heretic.

You still haven't answered my question about the deal that God and Jesus made with the devil concerning your doctrine of a limited atonement.
 

beloved57

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You have the wrong Gospel.

Your Gospel was conceived by the mind of a heretic.

You still haven't answered my question about the deal that God and Jesus made with the devil concerning your doctrine of a limited atonement.

TULIP is the correct Gospel !
 

beloved57

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pate

You still haven't answered my question about the deal that God and Jesus made with the devil concerning your doctrine of a limited atonement.

Thats something you must answer, you bought it up. I never heard of a deal that God made with the devil concerning limited atonement !
 

Robert Pate

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pate



Thats something you must answer, you bought it up. I never heard of a deal that God made with the devil concerning limited atonement !

Stop playing stupid.

How did God and Jesus make a limited atonement?

A limited atonement means that sin, death and the devil are alive and well and there is no salvation for anyone.
 
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