Madists

[God's Truth]

Oh good grief...

Yet again...obedience never merited salvation...faith and belief compels obedience...

One doesn't marry publicly in order to fall in love...one marries publicly because one wishes to affirm declare testify to vow that love already felt...

One doesn't baptize in order he might by saved...but because he believes he already is

Study the altar fire in the OT temple...it is fire FROM heaven...NOT man...and is to be tended...not to go out...

https://www.gotquestions.org/altar-fire.html

Our salvation is EXACTLY like this fire...it comes from above...it warms us, gives us light to see our life our work each other and ourselves better, and well we are merely to tend it...so as it would never go out...ya dig?



Even those circumcised were lost...it merited NOTHING

It was done TO the individual...and if infants without consent...how could it merit salvation?


Faith without works...is DEAD

You don't clean the kitchen to make it yours...you clean it because it already is...and more than likely the mess is yours too...

Most apt analogy...think about it next time you clean it...and notice too you can't clean with dirty rags...

Keep that candle burnin' sis...

No. We have to do what Jesus says to do to get IN him, to ENTER him!

 

[God's Truth]

…unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven; Matthew 18:3.
…unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart; Matthew 18:35.
…unless you repent, you too will all perish; Luke 13:3.

 

[God's Truth]

Well good grief, then you should already know that GT does not teach that.
GT teaches one must obey first to be saved and keep obeying to remain saved.

That is right...you have to humble yourself, repent of your sins, have a forgiving heart...THAT is to whom God gives eternal life.

 

[God's Truth]

suit yourselves twist scripture to make completely different gospel.

Jesus didn't teach one gospel and then tell Paul to teach another.

 

[God's Truth]

Galatians 3:21-22 KJV
(21) Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
(22) But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Do you know what works the Jews used to have to do, just to be able to go to the temple to worship God, for that is where His Spirit was.

Those purification/ceremonial works are the works the Jews used to have to do to clean themselves.

Those are the works that Paul is speaking of that no longer save.

Paul tells the Gentiles they were dead because they did not do those things, but now through Jesus' body, he cleans us by faith.

Paul would not ever tell anyone they do not have to obey anything that Jesus says except 'believe'.

 

[God's Truth]

2 Peter 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.



Did you read that? PEOPLE misunderstand Paul, just like you all do.

 

[Tambora]

Why do the scriptures say people misunderstand Paul

Because you do misunderstand Paul.

 

[God's Truth]

After Peter explains that people misunderstand Paul, Peter warns us to obey.

3:17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.

 

[Nick M]

Or cook with it, or use it for warmth, or make a bomb..........

There are many uses for bio-waste. We don't make anything, we just reconfigure over and over. Therefore, defeating all commie arguments.

 

[Nick M]

Pushed her into some real godly sorrow there. :nono:

Psalm 58:10

 

[God's Truth]

Because you do misunderstand Paul.

How do you EVER get that Paul tells people they have done wrong by obeying Jesus?!!!!!

 

[Tambora]

That is right

We know. You deny grace (unmerited favor), and look upon your own righteousness instead of the righteousness of Christ alone.

 

[Tambora]

Jesus didn't teach one gospel and then tell Paul to teach another.

Things that differ are not the same.

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus did NOT give Paul another gospel where the secret way to enter is by being careful not to obey! LOL

That dead faith is dead and not 'thee secret'.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

How do you EVER get that Paul tells people they have done wrong by obeying Jesus?!!!!!

You have presented a ridiculous conclusion, as usual.

 

[God's Truth]

We know. You deny grace (unmerited favor), and look upon your own righteousness instead of the righteousness of Christ alone.

Christ ALONE CLEANS US AND makes us righteous instead of ANYONE having to follow these works:



The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Jesus did NOT give Paul another gospel where the secret way to enter is by being careful not to obey! LOL

That dead faith is dead and not 'thee secret'.

What's a "Thee secret?"

 

[God's Truth]

The Jews USED to have to clean themselves.

Now Jesus cleans us just by our believing his blood cleans us---of the sins we repent of doing.

 

[God's Truth]

What's a "Thee secret?"

It is what you preach when you say Paul is the only one with a mystery. lol

When you claim that mystery is that we have to be careful to believe without obedience.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Christ ALONE CLEANS US AND makes us righteous instead of ANYONE having to follow these works:



The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.

You're thoroughly confused.