lol, the only thing you can do with John 1:17 is either believe it as the statement it is or go to destroying the meaning of the verse.
Basic Principle:
1 Corinthians 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray
with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing
with the understanding also.
And...
1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
And one of the first things a child begins to learn towards that, in Basic Reading Comprehension 101, is that in reading, there is
often a difference between what any word; or phrase; or even a whole passage
appears to be saying, and what it might
actually be saying.
Basic Reading Comprehension Principle:
Compare words, phrases, and or passages with one another for better comprension of what was
actually meant by what was said.
Case in point:
John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 11:12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 11:13
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: [/b]but they thought that he had spoken of[/b] taking of rest in sleep. 11:14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
A
comparison of verse 12 with verse 13 shows they had
believed what He had
appeared to be saying,
not what He had
actually meant.
Did you do any of that in your quoting of the following?
John 1:17 (NKJV)
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
No, you did not.
You basically ignored it's first word, underlined the rest, highlighted it in red, and followed that with your usual rambling...
I understand that Paul is not mentioned in John 1:17 therefore those in MAD do their best to CHANGE what is meant and proclaimed in that verse.
You only proved once more that you are going by what
you have concluded "that passage is talking about."
You went on about
what is meant but you did not prove that what
you have concluded was meant in that passage
is what was
actually meant, by it.
Your actual complaint is your own self-delusion, bro. The self-delusion that others have changed what was meant in that passage.
For you have not proven what was
actually meant in that passage.
You have only proven yours is the same old, same old of far too many.
The same old, same old of "well, what it means
to me is..."
Time to "put away childish things" bro.
Time to face the fact that merely posting (what basically amounts to your having posted) "just believe the Bible" says nothing.
Time for the practice of the Basic Principle of...
Nehemiah 8:8 So they read in the book in the law of God
distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to
understand the reading.
Time to Compare Scripture with Scripture.
Which is basically what this that follows, and its' intended result...is.
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
He compared Scripture with Scripture to them.
His intended result?
Luke 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
You have not done that, bro.
All you basically do is post a passage; assert others have changed its' meaning, and that's it.
As far as you are concerned,
you think you have proven that against others.
What you
actually prove, is that you go by what
you think a passage is saying.
Again, merely stating "just believe the Bible" only proves a faulty Reading Comprehension.
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Hunh?
How, LORD?
Nehemiah 8:8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
How?
1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Why?
Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
By reason of use of all the above Bible Study Principles...
I just now proved via the Scripture, that the Scripture has built-in Study Principles it expects one to both consciously know and consciously apply.
Towards what intended end?
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
You have proven nothing by quoting that one verse - John 1:17.
And again, its' first word "For" is more than just part of that verse, also.
Your highlighting of the rest of that passage only....just shows you quoted the whole only because the word "For" is part of that verse.
Not because you
actually understood it's intended role in that verse.
Just one more Principle you violate...unawares, bro.
For as "Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." - Proverbs 27:17.
Rom. 5:8
