Cruciform
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Categorically refuted by the source cited in the very post (#78) to which you're replying.
And...?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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The fact remains.
There is nothing in the bible about a church in Rome. Nor is there anything in the bible that resembles the Catholic religion, except Pharisaism.
To be honest with you, I would be scared to death to be a Catholic. You have a lot of courage.
Cruciform
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So what?
Categorically refuted here. So much for your wholly false claim.
On the contrary, I would be afraid to knowingly reject Christ's one historic Church and---to that extent---Jesus Christ himself (Lk. 10:16; 1 Tim. 3:15), as you have.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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The fact remains.
The Bible says 0 about Peter going to Rome to head a church.
The Bible says 0 about a church in Rome.
The Bible says 0 about a Catholic church anywhere.
genuineoriginal
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Your link contains a lot of garbage interpretations of Bible verses, but does not do a thing to address the statement.
The first part of the statement claims that the Bible does not show any example of any Christian church that bears any resemblance to the structure, doctrines, and hierarchy of the Roman Catholic church.
That part of the statement is true and anyone that is not completely blind or stupid can see it.
The second part of the statement claims the Roman Catholic church is very similar to the legalism of the Pharisees.
This part of the statement is false and made by a person whose doctrine imposes a new form of legalistic antinomianism.
The first real religion was Pharisaism.
They had taken the commandments and the ordinances and composed a book called the Torah. There were over 600 instructions in the Torah on how to live a life pleasing to God.
The crux of the Catholic church is how to live a life pleasing to God and be saved.
There is a terrible problem with this doctrine because all men are sinners. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners. God only accepts the works and the obedience of Jesus Christ.
We are accepted only in him and because of him.
beloved57
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Your religion is a offspring of Pharisee and Roman Catholic!
I don't have a religion. I live by faith.
beloved57
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How can someone be living by Faith when they reject the Gospel as you do ? You teach that God shall punish eternally those whom Christ Lived and died for and made them Righteous !
There is only one Gospel.
It is the Gospel that justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
All other Gospels are false.
beloved57
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You didnt answer the question:
How can someone be living by Faith when they reject the Gospel as you do ? You teach that God shall punish eternally those whom Christ Lived and died for and made them Righteous !
The God of the Bible so loves the world that he gives his only begotten Son, John 3:16.
What does the God of Calvinism give?
beloved57
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The fact is, you cant be a believer and reject the Gospel at the same time pate !
You can't answer the question.
beloved57
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Evasion and Rabbit trail !
You can't answer the question.
beloved57
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You didnt answer the question:
How can someone be living by Faith when they reject the Gospel as you do ? You teach that God shall punish eternally those whom Christ Lived and died for and made them Righteous !
genuineoriginal
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In that respect, they are carrying on with the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
There is no problem with the doctrine, the problem is with you.
The Bible says you have to humble yourself and obey.
You refuse.
God is no longer judging us because of the works and the obedience of Jesus Christ.
God gave Jesus Christ all judgment, including judgment over the works and obedience of believers.
So, why are you sitting back and lording over Jesus by telling Him to do everything for you?
So, you believe that if you humble yourself and obey you will be saved?
If that were true then Jesus lived and died in vain.
That is the doctrine of men. Be a good person, do good works and you will be saved.
That is the devils lie and is anti-Christ.
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beloved57
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You teach that even After Christ lived and died for one they can wind up in Hell for their sins in unbelief!