Jews Go to Heaven Without Knowing Jesus?

[meshak]

me? I dont have any concern with where a Jew goes,,,its none of my business..

good for you.

 

[heir]

Does she make you jealous?

Ro 11:11

"Hark! Fair Juliet speaks." ~ Paul Maclean, A River Runs Through It

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 KJV

 

[serpentdove]

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 KJV

"2 Co 5:16-17 new creation. This describes something that is created at a qualitatively new level of excellence. It refers to regeneration or the new birth (cf. John 3:3; Eph. 2:1–3; Titus 3:5; 1 Pet. 1:23; 1 John 2:29; 3:9; 5:4). This expression encompasses the Christian’s forgiveness of sins paid for in Christ’s substitutionary death (cf. Gal. 6:15; Eph. 4:24). old things have passed away. After a person is regenerate, old value systems, priorities, beliefs, loves, and plans are gone. Evil and sin are still present, but the believer sees them in a new perspective (see note on v. 16), and they no longer control him. all things … new. The Gr. grammar indicates that this newness is a continuing condition of fact. The believer’s new spiritual perception of everything is a constant reality for him, and he now lives for eternity, not temporal things. James identifies this transformation as the faith that produces works (see notes on Eph. 2:10; James 2:14–26)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1771). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

1 Co 3:17

 

[heir]

1 Co 3:17

Galatians 3:28 KJV

 

[RBBI]

This is why we need the rapture (2 Ki 2:23, HCSB). :rapture:

Pity there isn't one, except according to carnally minded interpretations of spiritual principles. Peace

 

[heir]

Pity there isn't one, except according to carnally minded interpretations of spiritual principles. Peace

Pity you don't believe it.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[RBBI]

If you dug deeper and studied the original languages and Hebrew idioms, FOR YOURSELF, you wouldn't either. Read Matt. 13 parable of the wheat and the tares until it sinks in. Peace

 

[serpentdove]

Galatians 3:28 KJV

"Ga 3:28. There is in this sonship by faith in Christ, no class privileged above another, as the Jews under the law had been above the Gentiles (Ro 10:12; 1 Co 12:13; Col 3:11)." Jamieson, R., Fausset, A. R., & Brown, D. (1997). Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (Vol. 2, p. 332). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

Jn 4:23

 

[serpentdove]

[Rapture, cause Jews to become jealous] Pity there isn't one..."

"Not all will sleep (1 Cor. 15:51; 1 Thess. 4:15, 17), dead in Christ will rise (1 Cor. 15:52; 1 Thess. 4:13, 14, 16), living to be transformed (1 Cor. 15:51–53), saints caught up (1 Thess. 4:16, 17). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 519). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

 

[Letsargue]

Many Christians believe that.

RIGHT!!!! - They Call Themselves "Christians", Christ don't!!

Most of them don't have the Slightest idea what it's ALL About. They Just Guess!!!

(( Watch Your News ))!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 021716

 

[serpentdove]

Devout Jews live as best they can (1 Co 3:17).

They also look for the truth (Jn 4:23). Moses and Elijah will clarify all soon (Mt 24:14). :bowser: :bowser:

 

[chair]

so a thread about "JEWS" asking if they go to Heaven,most Christians say they will not....lol

Then when a Jew reply's He is answered with scripture He does not accept...

Will a Jew go to Heaven...lol...will a Christian get to Nirvana or Valhalla?
Will a Buddhist go to Kolob with the Mormons??

sometimes u just gota laugh...

Thanks.

 

[serpentdove]

I think your forgetting the fact that no one comes to Christ...even if he wants to... Unless God the Father CALLS him. John 6:44

That's right. Men are not judged for what they don't know. They are judged for what they know (Jn 9:39–41). Your ancestry does not get you into heaven (Matt. 3:9, 10). Men have always been saved the same way--by grace through faith (Eph 2:8). Love God perfectly and you'll be good to go (Mt 22:37).

 

[Letsargue]

I think your forgetting the fact that no one comes to Christ...even if he wants to... Unless God the Father CALLS him. John 6:44

None of the LOST Fools Can go by Anything GOD "DOES" Say!!!!!!!
What God "Doesn't" Say is Nothing but a LIE!!

(( Watch Your N-E-W-S ))!!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 021716

 

[heir]

I think your forgetting the fact that no one comes to Christ...even if he wants to... Unless God the Father CALLS him. John 6:44

God is calling all men to be saved today (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV) by the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV). Are you saved?

 

[heir]

If you dug deeper and studied the original languages and Hebrew idioms, FOR YOURSELF, you wouldn't either. Read Matt. 13 parable of the wheat and the tares until it sinks in. Peace

We are called to study the approved unto God way which is rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV). I study the authentic all scripture now and it throughly furnishes me (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV). The catching up is not found in Matthew 13, but Paul's epistles of Romans through Philemon. You are not on the right page.

 

[serpentdove]

Jews dont want to go to your Heaven...

Separate heavens? His blood covers us--Jew and gentile alike (Lev. 17:10–14). What the Jews said disparagingly, he applied to them (Ge 37:33, Mt 27:25). :listen: Otherwise they would not exist (Mic. 7:18, Is. 37:31–33). God has always had a remnant (Jer. 23:3–8; Rom. 9:27). Your welcome (Ge 12:3, Mic. 5:7, 8).

 

[KingdomRose]

Anyone who does not believe in Christ has chosen instead to remain apart from God. Though they may have a religious perspective, in their hearts they are choosing to worship God the way they want to worship Him, instead of the way He commands us to worship Him. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me”. John 14:6

No one goes to heaven that does not have a good relationship with God and with Christ. After all, the ones going to heaven are CO-RULERS with Christ for a thousand years.

But that doesn't mean that some (actually many) people here on Earth will not have accepted Jesus in this world/age. Many will not have had the chance to really get to know him and his Father (John 17:3). Everyone who goes through the Great Tribulation and enters Paradise-in-the-making will be given ample opportunity to LEARN. Then the ones who accept Christ will be able to live on Earth forever, in paradise conditions.

 

[KingdomRose]

Living in a generations-long existence of having their neck under the boot of corrupt rulers and conquerors, the Jews did something practical and pragmatic:

The devised a way to build in moral socialism into the structures of their society--religious and political. And Jesus carried on this epic narrative in his own ministry.

The turning away from

...worshiping the Golden Calf of idolatry,
...extending our moral imagination for the homeless, the immigrant, the orphan and the widow,
...canceling all debts for everyone at a certain time period every generation
...holding back part of the harvest for the poor and the marginalized,
...giving back the land to its original family owners every so often at a definite time.
...Being kind to animals who till the soil and provide clothing and nourishment

In short, establishing the type of world where swords and lances are turned back into pruning hooks.

Their great narrative myth was to leave the bondage of the Pharaoh and strike out to wander the great wilderness. And to eventually arrive in a paradise of morality and liberty and justice for all.

Most of us (as I see it) are leaving the power and principalities of our Pharaohs.
And I see this happening worldwide.

But we are clearly wandering in the wilderness, trying to follow the leaders who have a chance of leading us to that "city on the hill" as Reagan talked about.
A paradise of justice and human rights and a place of no more war.

The Jews knew exactly what they were doing. They were all-too-aware of where they were and where they needed to be.

Their great prophets always warned the people that if they kept on going the way they were going, they were going to wind up where they were headed.

Repent, which meant then and means now "metanoia". Completely change your human orientation to the world and find immortality and peace.

Yes, this planet will someday be the Paradise that Jehovah intended it always to be. His plans will come to fruition. Earth will be a glorious place of beauty everywhere, no hatred or suffering or sickness or tears of sadness, peace with the animals and every creation. The Bible promises this. Jesus and his co-rulers will reign from heaven, guiding all mankind to re-invigorate this planet and make a wonderful home for everyone.

Isaiah 11:6-9; 35:5,6; 65:21-25

John 5:28

Psalm 37:9-11, 29

Psalm 72:16; 67:6

Isaiah 9:6,7

Psalm 46:8,9

:surf::car::zoomin::cheers::cow::TomO::tunes::upright::hetro::Christine

 

[meshak]

No one goes to heaven that does not have a good relationship with God and with Christ. After all, the ones going to heaven are CO-RULERS with Christ for a thousand years.

But that doesn't mean that some (actually many) people here on Earth will not have accepted Jesus in this world/age. Many will not have had the chance to really get to know him and his Father (John 17:3). Everyone who goes through the Great Tribulation and enters Paradise-in-the-making will be given ample opportunity to LEARN. Then the ones who accept Christ will be able to live on Earth forever, in paradise conditions.

You are talking about 1000 years, right?

it seems just another assumption.