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John 8:57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him;...
John 10:30 I and My Father are one.”
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
The notion that anyone could deny that Jesus claimed to be God is asinine in the extreme. Just who is it that you're trying to convince here?
Prediction: These totally clear, unambiguous and completely impossible to misunderstand passages of scripture will not move genuineoriginal one single centimeter. He will not concede the point AT ALL. He is a liar. He isn't here to debate, he's here to defame and blaspheme Jesus Christ and nothing else.
Neither of the examples you gave has Jesus saying he is God. The prhase "ego emi" (I am) is rife throughout John chapeter 8, throughout the chapter it always means "I am" how we understanding it in english:
v12 Then Jesus spoke again to them, saying: “
I am the light of the world.
v14 because I know where I came from and where
I am going
v21
I am going away, and you will look for me
v21 Where
I am going, you cannot come
v23 You are from this world;
I am not from this world.
v26 the One who sent me is true, and the very things I heard from him
I am speaking in the world
These are just a few occurrences out of 16 in the chapter, the question being asked to Jesus was "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?", Jesus replying "Jehovah/Yahweh" to that question makes no sense as the question was about age not identity, moreover, scholars agree that the translation in Exo 3:14 is not "I am" but rather "I will be". Many translations understood Jesus answer to be in relation to his age and have translated the verse as such.
"I was in existence before Abraham was ever born." (The Living Bible)
"Before Abraham was, I existed." (New Living Translation, 1995 Edition)
"Before Abraham was, I already was." (Bible in Worldwide English)
"Before Abraham was, I have been." (New American Standard Bible, Footnote, 1960 and 1973 Edition)
"From before Abraham was, I have been." (The New Testament, by G. R. Noyes.)
"I existed before Abraham was born!" (The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.)
"Before Abraham was born, I was already the one that I am." (Das Neue Testament, by Jörg Zink.)
"I was alive before Abraham was born!" (The Simple English Bible)
If you wish to convince others you must use convincing arguments, it's pointless regurgitating the same nonsense that has been debunked hundreds of times.
(John 10:30-34) I and the Father are one.” 31 Once again the Jews picked up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are you stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself theos.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?
Jesus comparing the Jews to gods is a clear indicator that he using the fact that the Jews -who can rightly be called gods according to Pslams 82- who are a type of god(s) in defense of the fact of what type of god he was. If there are two people who are liars, and one tries to punish the other by suggesting he be put to death the perfect defense would be for the accused liar to say to the accuser "are you not also a liar" in order for the accuser to see that if he wishes to put him to death he too is deserving of death as he too is a liar.
Likewise, the Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy by stating he was calling himself a god, Jesus in his own defense said to the Jews "are you not gods" so that they could see they were a type of god the same way he was. Jesus was answering the charge of blasphemy, he did so by calling others gods in his own defense of being gods son, NOT God himself. The Jews weren't accusing him of being God almighty but a god, we know this is true by Jesus answer. If the Jews were claiming Jesus was almighty God what Jesus said makes no sense, the account only makes sense if the Jews were calling Jesus a god.
[The Jews said] We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself
God.” 34 Jesus
answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”. (This version makes littles sense as Jesus' answer to their charge isn't actually an answer, the Jews would have thought "well we aren't comparing you to the type of gods in Psalms 82 but almighty God, so again Jesus answer wouldn't have made any sense)
[The Jews said] We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself
a god.” 34 Jesus
answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”. (This DOES make sense as we can see Jesus making a comparison to their right to be called gods in his own defense of being a god, this IS an answer to the charge.)
If your argument is not convincing there no point in sharing it.
