What is the word for me in the Hebrew?
את
'êth
ayth
"Apparently contracted from H226 in the demonstrative sense of entity; properly self (but generally used to point out more definitely the object of a verb or preposition, even or namely)"-Strongs
What is the word for me in the Hebrew?
I knew what he said, but he did not do it.
Show me where Jesus raised himself if you can.
If he raised himself who in their right mind would think he died? I would not be a believer if he was able to do that. You just do not think things out.
That's dishonest, Jesus resurrected himself like he said. You are retelling the story in a different way.
The term LORD represents the Hebrew YHVH which means the self existing one. The Father is self existing and since the Father resurrected Jesus he too is self existing.
Everyone in the first resurrection will be self existing.
The apostles were just as surprised as you are. They didn't seem to believe it either, they saw him die. It wasn't until hind site that they recalled what he had said to the Jews when they pressed him on his authority, asking him for a "sign".
Who in there right mind could believe the miracles either?
It's still a mystery to you, is it? :nono:
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Theological gobledegook.I did answer it, God the Father gave the Son his power in a theoretical point in eternity.
Looks like we have different interpretations as to just what that means."I am in the Father and the Father is in me"
No need to do that since they are one as a divine being and a human being. There is nothing in his statements about oneness that demands or even implies that he is an eternal being. Please keep in mind Jesus prayed that us Christians would be one "even as you (Father) and I are one". What does that tell you about the kind of oneness Jesus spoke of just a few verses away in John?You are attempting to segregate the oneness of the Father and Son in order to make him purely human, to have a finite beginning in time.
Oh, so you wouldn't believe that with God all things are possible, is that it? What kind of a God wouldn't be able to come in the flesh, and then raise that very body He made for Himself from the dead? Instead of believing what Jesus said He would do, you prefer to think God is not able to perform what He has promised. That's called unbelief.
You sure ain't no Abraham, are ya, Keypurr? :nono:
Romans 4:20
He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
You speak out of your unbelief.
John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
I think not... It was His God... whom He claims to have... that raised Him!!! :think:
The Bible states that after his sermon on the day of Pentecost about 3000 persons were saved... When preaching to these Jews Peter presents a Messiah who is the descendent of King David (v.30). He is one who would have rotted and decayed in the grave like any other man had not God raised him up again (v.24-32). Because God authenticated "this Jesus" by resurrecting him (thus reversing the national verdict accusing him of blasphemy, that is, claiming to be God's Messiah), Jesus is now "exulted to the right hand of God" (v. 33). God has thus sealed "this Jesus whom you crucified" (v.36) and declared him as "Lord and Messiah" to the nation of Israel and "for all who are far off" (the Gentiles as well, v.39). The proof of his Messiahship is that the Holy Spirit has been poured out. Every Jew believed that the dawning of the new Messianic age would usher in a mighty outpouring of God Spirit. This Jewish audience knew that Peter statements meant that the God of their fathers, Jehovah, had raise Jesus in fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies concerning the Christ. Their understanding that "Jesus is Lord" was governed by their understanding of the messianic fulfillment of Psalms 110 as Peter quotes it in Acts here.
No unitary monotheistic Jew would have taken Peter statements in Acts 2 to mean that Messiah was Jehovah God. It must be interpreted with Hebrew eyes this same pattern is followed throughout Acts.
In the next chapter, Peter calls Jesus anything but the Lord God. Jesus is called God’s "servant" twice (Acts 3:13, 26); God's "Christ" (v. 18:20); "the Prince of life" (a title nowhere in the Bible applied to God, v.15); the "prophets" whom Moses predicted (v.22,23). In fact, Peter is very careful not to confuse the identity of the Lord God and this Jesus who is the Lord Messiah. Note verse 13 where Peter says, "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers as glorified his servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered up, and disowned in the presence of pilate, when he had decided to release him." This same expression "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob" appears in Exodus 3:15 where God tells Moses to announce to the people that "The LORD [YHWH], they got of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you" (Ex 3:15). The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob equals the LORD (Jehovah). Here in Acts 3:13 it is "The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers" who has now "glorified his servant Jesus."
Is Jesus then the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers? Absolutely not! This would make complete nonsense of the text. The God of Abraham glorified who? Himself? No: His servant Jesus. Jesus is not the God of Abraham. Jesus is not Jehovah, the LORD. He is God anointed one, God's servant.
Act 2:24 "But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.
Act 10:40 "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,
Act 13:29 "When they had carried out all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the cross and laid Him in a tomb. "But God raised Him from the dead;
No scripture ever teaches that Jesus raised Himself! :think:
You should ignore the behind the forum private communications from Trinitarians telling you to avoid communicating with me. If I'm so wrong then you should easily make me eat your lunch!
oly::sherlock:
Paul
No scripture ever teaches that Jesus raised Himself! :think:
Geeeze! The mental gymnastics???? "Kanaph", 4 corners of the earth, whole world silly.
Stop beating around the bush and show me the verse that says Jesus raised himself. If you can not do that then it is proof that you are assuming, adding words to scripture.
If he could do that then he really did not die and our faith moot.
I think not... It was His God... whom He claims to have... that raised Him!!! :think:
The Bible states that after his sermon on the day of Pentecost about 3000 persons were saved... When preaching to these Jews Peter presents a Messiah who is the descendent of King David (v.30). He is one who would have rotted and decayed in the grave like any other man had not God raised him up again (v.24-32). Because God authenticated "this Jesus" by resurrecting him (thus reversing the national verdict accusing him of blasphemy, that is, claiming to be God's Messiah), Jesus is now "exulted to the right hand of God" (v. 33). God has thus sealed "this Jesus whom you crucified" (v.36) and declared him as "Lord and Messiah" to the nation of Israel and "for all who are far off" (the Gentiles as well, v.39). The proof of his Messiahship is that the Holy Spirit has been poured out. Every Jew believed that the dawning of the new Messianic age would usher in a mighty outpouring of God Spirit. This Jewish audience knew that Peter statements meant that the God of their fathers, Jehovah, had raise Jesus in fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies concerning the Christ. Their understanding that "Jesus is Lord" was governed by their understanding of the messianic fulfillment of Psalms 110 as Peter quotes it in Acts here.
No unitary monotheistic Jew would have taken Peter statements in Acts 2 to mean that Messiah was Jehovah God. It must be interpreted with Hebrew eyes this same pattern is followed throughout Acts.
In the next chapter, Peter calls Jesus anything but the Lord God. Jesus is called God’s "servant" twice (Acts 3:13, 26); God's "Christ" (v. 18:20); "the Prince of life" (a title nowhere in the Bible applied to God, v.15); the "prophets" whom Moses predicted (v.22,23). In fact, Peter is very careful not to confuse the identity of the Lord God and this Jesus who is the Lord Messiah. Note verse 13 where Peter says, "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers as glorified his servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered up, and disowned in the presence of pilate, when he had decided to release him." This same expression "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob" appears in Exodus 3:15 where God tells Moses to announce to the people that "The LORD [YHWH], they got of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you" (Ex 3:15). The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob equals the LORD (Jehovah). Here in Acts 3:13 it is "The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers" who has now "glorified his servant Jesus."
Is Jesus then the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers? Absolutely not! This would make complete nonsense of the text. The God of Abraham glorified who? Himself? No: His servant Jesus. Jesus is not the God of Abraham. Jesus is not Jehovah, the LORD. He is God anointed one, God's servant.
Act 2:24 "But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.
Act 10:40 "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,
Act 13:29 "When they had carried out all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the cross and laid Him in a tomb. "But God raised Him from the dead;
No scripture ever teaches that Jesus raised Himself! :think:
You should ignore the behind the forum private communications from Trinitarians telling you to avoid communicating with me. If I'm so wrong then you should easily make me eat your lunch!
oly::sherlock:
Paul
את
'êth
ayth
"Apparently contracted from H226 in the demonstrative sense of entity; properly self (but generally used to point out more definitely the object of a verb or preposition, even or namely)"-Strongs
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Then said Jesus unto them, "When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he and that I do nothing of myself, but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things." (John 8:28)
Jesus spoke for the Father who raised him from the dead. Jesus did nothing of himself.
No human has ever raised himself from the dead or we would have no cemetaries.
Trinitarians are :kookoo:.
Your deceitful assertion that Jesus effectively wondered about making meaningless claims that he never carried out puts the burden of proof on you that he didn't follow through with his directive "tear down this temple (his body) and in three days I will raise it up again."
Jesus did in fact return from the dead as he said he would, you are now the fool who wants to deny him because you can't or wont understand plural manifestation.
"When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted"
I've never had anyone help me with the obvious, Arius's people are the low hanging fruit. Like fish in a barrel, they throw out the good water in their anti-Catholicism.
The Word raised Jesus because Jesus is the Word, he is a personification of the Father.
He was the living Word personified before the incarnation, he was the living Word personified during the human life of Jesus, he was the living Word while the body of Jesus lay in the tomb, he was the living Word in the resurrected form of Jesus, he is the living Word now on high and even here among us now as we discus this.
NOTE: Anti-Jesus is God people don't quote Jesus, they go to secondary characterizations which appear to support their arguments, but to say God raised Jesus from the dead is synonymous with Jesus raising up his body after being dead for three days.
Here, it's like sunlight on vampires:
The Jews then said to Him, "What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?" Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
He would again address this self existent power and authority as God incarnate in man:
"For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. "No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."