Jadespring said:
Nin what you're talking about is not the Gospel. Get yourself straight.
I know it's not the Gospel. That's my point. The Gospel says all have sinned, but through faith in Christ's death and ressurection, we are saved. You say we were always "holy", but you really meant "good".
Get over it and stop bringing it up. You're trying to create something out of nothing to further some agenda you have against me.
You are telling people they were never "bad", that was a lie that was made up, Christ died so we could be "guilt free" about feeling we are
good, like we always have been.
Here is your explanation on the use of HOLY in that passage. What I should have said was GOOD. Better? This is a difference that we have in using language to describe concepts. I sincerely apologize for not knowing how you're mind works and how you understand things.
Now please drop it or go back and actually READ the thread.
I'm not seeing how Christ dying because we were always
holy but believed a lie is any better or worse than Christ dying because we were always
good but believed a lie. The Bible says differently. "The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time."
So would you like to change this:
"We never fell. We only think that we did and created a whole story to do with that idea. It was our mistake. We have always been
holy . We never 'fell' so to speak. We only think we did. Jesus came to liberate us from a 'guilt' and a primitive way of thinking that should have never happened.
So the outcome is still basically the same"
To this:
"We never fell. We only think that we did and created a whole story to do with that idea. It was our mistake. We have always been
good. We never 'fell' so to speak. We only think we did. Jesus came to liberate us from a 'guilt' and a primitive way of thinking that should have never happened.
So the outcome is still basically the same"
Do you interpret what is said about Christ in an esoteric spiritualized manner or a literal one?