ECT Is your pastor deceiving you, or is he just ignorant?

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Are you placing your total trust in Christ's finished work on the cross for your right standing/justification before GOD and trust Him to carry you across the wire of eternity, or are you placing some of your trust/faith/confidence in yourself, foolishlessly thinking that your puny attempts at personal righteousness could possibly help in any way and add anything to what He has done? To believe so, is to say that Christ's blood was not good enough.

Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

No flesh will climb up a ladder to heaven and then boast of what they have accomplished. To even imagine this brings despite to the Spirit of grace.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory[boast] in his presence.

You have just admitted OSAS is wrong.

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When you lie, I call you a liar. Would you rather I say this to you?

Acts 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Then you are a liar, because that is not applicable to me at all.

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"We" is a plural pronoun....not a singular one. It isn't presumption for members of the body to know they are IN CHRIST and have the mind of Christ. It isn't something we need to prove, nor should we bother to try. It's like trying to explain the color blue to the blind.

It is presumption for those who are not in Christ to think they are by reading scriptures, when denying Acts 2:38 being required.

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Like the time you offered to fistfight JohnW? That was you wasn't it?

John W is a lying dog.

When you see him as otherwise you disagree with John W who says so of himself and of all believers.

John w fights like hell against any need of sanctification after believing.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


When men sing the praises of one who calls the saints to be sons of satan and the like, then they share in his sins.(which he claims to have none of)

The poor man will die in his sins and drag as many as he can with him, in doing satans will.

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It is presumption for those who are not in Christ to think they are by reading scriptures, when denying Acts 2:38 being required.

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Acts 2:38 was a murder indictment to 'you men of Israel' and them alone.

A person today cannot legitimately inject themselves into that unique historical event.

Paul is the Apostle to the nations.
 

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The Lord did not give you a vision. That you claim He did means you are delusional. You're in the cult club....certainly not the first to make such claims.

by spears he means taking his "vision" apart scripturally, when he pronounced his curse on grosnick.
 

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Acts 2:38 was a murder indictment to 'you men of Israel' and them alone.

What scriptures say so?

None.

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

A person today cannot legitimately inject themselves into that unique historical event.

None have to. The Lord does it for them.



Paul is the Apostle to the nations.

So were the twelve and all apostles since--

Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:



Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

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