Is there a true church?

[glassjester]

But do you suppose the personality's belief system is going to outweigh the reality of all that outer space you see when you look up at the night sky? THAT is reality. THAT is what is infinite and eternal.

The universe (space and time) is neither infinite nor eternal.
Why do you believe it is?

 

[Right Divider]

The soul is not mysticism. It is reality. The beliefs and stories of the personality are the mysticism. It's your choice whether or not to investigate the soul for yourself. But do you suppose the personality's belief system is going to outweigh the reality of all that outer space you see when you look up at the night sky? THAT is reality. THAT is what is infinite and eternal. There's no amount of belief in anything that is going to protect you from it. Might as well jump now.

Absolute total utter hogwash.

A bogus claim by a self proclaimed know it all.

 

[Prizebeatz1]

The universe (space and time) is neither infinite nor eternal.
Why do you believe it is?

Why do you believe that it's not?

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Absolute total utter hogwash.

A bogus claim by a self proclaimed know it all.

The burden of proof to disprove this theory is on you.

 

[glassjester]

Why do you believe that it's not?

Well... can an infinite period of time ever end?

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Well... can an infinite period of time ever end?

That's a great question and it's a viable way of thinking about it too. In my opinion it's more about the negation of time altogether or timelessness.

 

[journey]

That is based on the interpretation that has been spoon fed to us. I was brave enough to find out the truth for myself. Do you suppose the idea that a man can ascend into the sky is based on opinion?

Jesus Christ ascended to heaven after His resurrection, and there were witnesses. I really don't care what you believe since it has no impact on the truth.

 

[glassjester]

That's a great question and it's a viable way of thinking about it too. In my opinion it's more about the negation of time altogether or timelessness.

I agree. "Eternal" means "atemporal" or "timeless."

But time is a dimension of the physical universe.



So could a time period of infinite duration, ever come to an end?

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Jesus Christ ascended to heaven after His resurrection, and there were witnesses. I really don't care what you believe since it has no impact on the truth.

Is it more likely the literal truth or is it more likely to be symbolic?

 

[Prizebeatz1]

I agree. "Eternal" means "atemporal" or "timeless."

But time is a dimension of the physical universe.



So could a time period of infinite duration, ever come to an end?

No. I suppose it couldn't.

 

[journey]

Is it more likely the literal truth or is it more likely to be symbolic?

Literal truth - just as God's Word teaches.

 

[glassjester]

No. I suppose it couldn't.

Alright, we've got common ground.

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Literal truth - just as God's Word teaches.

Really? Where does it teach that it's literal?

 

[glassjester]

No. I suppose it couldn't.

Pick any point in the past. Let's say, the day you were born.

How much time elapsed from the day you were born, back to the beginning of time? How long was that period of time?

 

[journey]

Really? Where does it teach that it's literal?

Where does it teach that it's not literal? I'm through conversing with you. You're welcome to believe whatever you want to, regardless of what God's Word clearly teaches.

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Where does it teach that it's not literal? I'm through conversing with you. You're welcome to believe whatever you want to, regardless of what God's Word clearly teaches.

Basic common sense tells us it's not literal. I think we've been confusing "what God's Word clearly teaches" with the interpretation of man.

 

[patrick jane]

Basic common sense tells us it's not literal. I think we've been confusing "what God's Word clearly teaches" with the interpretation of man.

Your common sense tells you that the Lord Jesus Christ did not ascend after resurrection ?

Acts 1:1-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, -

It is literal, with eyewitnesses

 

[Prizebeatz1]

Your common sense tells you that the Lord Jesus Christ did not ascend after resurrection ?

Acts 1:1-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, -

It is literal, with eyewitnesses

I honestly think everyone's common sense tells them it's not literal but people are too proud and too afraid to admit it. The beauty of the soul is that it makes perfect sense when we're ready to get real. Maybe not everyone is ready and that's fine.

 

[steko]

I honestly think everyone's common sense tells them it's not literal but people are too proud and too afraid to admit it. The beauty of the soul is that it makes perfect sense when we're ready to get real. Maybe not everyone is ready and that's fine.

It's literal and common rational sense, says so.

My pride is what wouldn't allow me to recognize its literalness.
My fears left me when I came to true faith in Christ.
You are obviously not ready....yet.
I pray you become so.

 

[Prizebeatz1]

It's literal and common rational sense, says so.

My pride is what wouldn't allow me to recognize its literalness.
My fears left me when I came to true faith in Christ.
You are obviously not ready....yet.
I pray you become so.

Well that's funny. You probably didn't know I was a Catholic for 35 years. Do you really suppose a man could literally ascend into the sky thousands of years ago or even today? There's nothing common or rational about it. I don't think you're being honest.