Is Prophecy Being Fulfilled in the Dispensation of Grace?

[glorydaz]

Jesus was very clear that they would not get to the entire nation of Israel before His return.

Obviously, something happened that postponed that return.

Either that or He “lied” or led them on for a very good reason. He seemed “very clear” at other times as well, but not exactly crystal clear..

Postponed? Or planned out and misunderstood?

 

[Right Divider]

Either that or He “lied” or led them on for a very good reason.

Jesus was not lying. He cannot do that.

He seemed “very clear” at other times as well, but not exactly crystal clear..

Jesus was completely clear with that statement.

Postponed? Or planned out and misunderstood?

God's hidden agenda has intervened.

 

[glorydaz]

Jesus was not lying. He cannot do that.

Jesus was completely clear with that statement.

God's hidden agenda has intervened.

If His hidden agenda intervened, why didn’t Paul know about it?
Especially since that “hidden agenda“ involved Paul.

What is a lie? Didn‘t you watch that video Clete put up?
You should because the answer is there.

 

[glorydaz]

If His hidden agenda intervened, why didn’t Paul know about it?
Especially since that “hidden agenda“ involved Paul.

What is a lie? Didn‘t you watch that video Clete put up?
You should because the answer is there.

Just wanted to add what Clete noted with his video.

“The error your making here is in the belief that it is always a sin to tell someone an untruth. It is not. I very strongly recommend you watch the following video. It's part of a series of videos on the subject and it is very very informative...”

 

[Right Divider]

If His hidden agenda intervened, why didn’t Paul know about it?
Especially since that “hidden agenda“ involved Paul.

I have no idea what you're talking about.
The hidden agenda was the dispensation of the grace of God given to Paul.
So of course Paul knew about it.

Eph 3:8-12 (AKJV/PCE)​

(3:8) Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; (3:9) And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: (3:10) To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly [places] might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, (3:11) According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: (3:12) In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.​

What is a lie? Didn‘t you watch that video Clete put up?
You should because the answer is there.

Jesus was not lying.

 

[glorydaz]

Jesus was not lying. He cannot do that.

Jesus was completely clear with that statement.

God's hidden agenda has intervened.

So again. What hidden agenda?

More likely Matt. 10:23 is talking about the temple being destroyed in 70 AD. He returned in judgment then, didn’t He?

 

[Clete]

We will all see the signs, before the Antichrist is revealed. Jesus gave his followers signs to watch out for, and Paul gave his followers signs and according to the prophet, Daniel, there will be the Antichrist declaring peace and safety for 3 1/2 years, and then he will break the peace and declare himself Christ….demanding worship. We will leave just prior to that. The restrainer is removed and then it all begins. Our leaving will be the start of the Great Tribulation.

I thought you said you understood that we aren't Israel. ??

The Body of Christ will not see a single day of Jacob's (Israel's) trouble.

The rest of what you said there has already been refuted without response.

I will go back to the generation that sees the fig tree bloom will not pass a way until all be fulfilled. That generation born in 1948 when Israel became that nation born in a day.

You REALLY need to read through some of that 88 Reason book! I'm telling ya, he got all 88 reasons wrong, one of which was this one you just gave.

The creation of a secular political entity is not the blooming of the fig tree. Jews have no more faith in Jesus Christ today than they had two millennia ago. If they had, they'd put their trust in His power, boot out the foolish Muslim God haters and rebuild God's temple. No! Israel is far away from anything that remotely looks like blooming with faith. Isreal today remains the fig tree without fruit that God cut down about a year after it was 'fertilized' with the Holy Spirit at their Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) (See Luke 13:6-9).

But!

When we, His Body, are raptured out and God turns again to Israel and His Spirit stirs the hearts of His people again, now that is going bring a bumper crop of figs, although not without a lot of pain and suffering as they are purged through the tribulation period.