Is Organized Religion Anti-Christ?

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Cruciform said:
This is a reference to Progressive Justification, which takes place over one's entire lifetime. Regarding Initial Justification, however, the Church teaches the following in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
[2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion...​
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A distinction without a difference when considering the meaning of the word "justification". Adding adjectives, "initial" or "progressive" to modify the word is a sure signal that something amiss is afoot. Rome is simply using flowery adjectives to deny one cannot lose one's re-birth (regeneration) in Christ.

Thanks be to us all that God is not double-minded. When He imputes the condignly meritorious righteousness of the active and passive obedience of Our Lord's works to those who call upon His name it is clear justification is a punctiliar declaration of God.

Would that Romanists and others aligned with them reject any notion that we have either congruent or condign merit. Christ’s obedience is perfect. His merit, His obedience, is active and suffering righteousness (i.e., His whole obedience) is imputed to us. The ground of our acceptance with God as righteousness is wholly outside of us.

Give praise that God rejects congruent merit and any notion that would imply God grades on a curve. Rather rejoice that it is our consolation that we may be assured that our righteousness does not depend upon our works, for if this were the case we should lose it thousands of times, but upon the sacrifice and merit of Christ alone.

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Ask Mr. Religion said:
A distinction without a difference when considering the meaning of the word "justification". Adding adjectives, "initial" or "progressive" to modify the word is a sure signal that something amiss is afoot. Rome is simply using flowery adjectives to deny one cannot lose one's re-birth (regeneration) in Christ.
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The entirely non-authoritative opinions of your preferred recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect are noted.

For more info on the historic Catholic view of justification, see this and this.



Gaudium de veritate,

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Cruciform said:
Already decisively answered (Post #83).
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It is all very simple.

We are justified by faith alone, because we are justified by Christ alone.

We are justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus, Plus nothing. Jesus is the justifier, Romans 3:26.
 
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jamie said:
God doesn't judge, he has assigned judgment to the Son. The Son doesn't judge those outside of the faith. We do.
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Revelation 20:11-15.

If you are not found to be "In Christ" you will perish.

To be found in Christ means that you are trusting in his righteousness and in his atonement for your sins, plus nothing.
 
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Robert Pate

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jamie said:
Not at all, the Book of Life is opened to those resurrected. After salvation by grace they will be judged according to their works, same as us.
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John 3:16 says... "That whosoever that believes in Jesus will not perish."

Common sense should tell you that if you do not believe in Jesus you will perish.

Works are not going to save anyone.
 
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ROBERT PATE' said to me,

You also are outside of the faith and are under the judgment of God.
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ROBERT,

We are all under the JUDGEMENT of God and since, Judgement begins at the

House of God. And so you have CONFIRMED that I am part of the house of God.

THANKS
 
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