heir
TOL Subscriber
What is? Where is the "His Word" that you say God gave? Why won't you identify this inspired "Scripture without error". Come on, rulz. You said those things now where is it? Where can we find it?
Theology Club: Is MAD doctrine correct?
- Thread starter Bright Raven
- Start date
Wrong assumptions lead to wrong conclusions. The problems with KJV show that it is not what you think it is. God did not promise to inspire a newer English version as infallible. The original autographs were uniquely inspired and accurately reflected in the wealth of manuscript evidence and credible translations.
Jesus quoted the imperfect LXX translation and called it the Word of God. He was not KJVO!
You want simplistic answers to more complex issues.
You are parroting standard KJVO logical fallacies and vapid arguments. I have answered like almost all evangelicals would, but you don't like the answer. You prefer myth over evidence-based views. This is not honouring God, the Word of God, the people of God.
You still did not answer the question.
I answered consistent with the best and brightest of conservative, evangelical, biblical scholarship. You just don't like my answer because you are falling for an anti-intellectual myth of KJVO.
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
So did the enemies of Christ, but they were wrong.
heir
TOL Subscriber
He knows he didn't, but he's trying to make it look like he has.
Your illogical thinking means Paul must have been wrong and God cannot raise up great defenders and proclaimers of truth. Your anti-intellectualism leads to gullibility in embracing error.
Jesus was also not a dummy.
One can be smart and wrong or simple and right or smart and right or simple and wrong. You wrongly assume there is only 2 vs 4 possibilities.
How can I be any more clear. The problem is that in your narrow mind, the only possible answer is that KJV alone=Word of God alone. This is a false assumption/conclusion, so other more credible answers are possible (and I gave it).
Why not use the KJV to answer those who use that version. Would it not make things a lot simpler?
heir
TOL Subscriber
So then tell us where this "infallible word of God" that you say exists, is! I'm still waiting for you to identify it and where I can get mine!
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
Who is your guru?
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
Bits and pieces are scattered all over the world. If you desperately need to know what the LORD has said about something, grab your ESV and be 85% confident it's right.
After all, a little leaven doesn't leaven the whole lump.
I guess if I was talking to a Mormon, I would use KJV. Talking to an evangelical should not limit me to a less readable, less accurate version. Regardless of the version, there is still benefit from original language research such as KJV translators themselves did in a non-supernatural way (no dictation theory, but hard work).
There is no infallible TRANSLATION. Get over it. You are asking the wrong questions.
Straw man caricature of inspiration, transmission, translation.
Thanks, I'll take my KJV.
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
Oh.
This is your right, but it still does not mean it is the most readable, accurate version available. Minimally, we should compare translations and do some original language research.
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
Which version is closest to 100% the word of God?