Is Faith Without Works Dead?

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In Acts 1:18."Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out." and in Mark 27:5.."And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." Notice that in Mark's verse we have a time and date that He hanged himself.....In Acts 1:18 happened around 40-50 days after the Resurrection of Jesus. The question there is: Could not the rope that hung him broke for some spilling him on the ground face first ? The scripture of GOD tells these things happened. You either believe God's Words or you do not...I take it that you do not Believe in God's Word as you have labored the Bible is in err. Many of the contradictions above are the regular talking points for a Atheist. I understand them, I don't understand why you believe the Bible is in err but you also believe the Mid Acts, Paul and Jesus has or will save you? Mind boggling!
We don't believe that the Bible is in err, you are just LYING about us to yourself.
 

Clete

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Yes, exactly: At least we see apparent contradictions.

My question was to rather give example and then ask: "What do you mean by no contradiction?"

I think rather, we mean "The Bible is consistently true, even if it records something like a lie" rather than that it doesn't contain apparent contradiction. The first book in the bible contains a contradiction 3 chapters in: "Has God really said..." (the serpent contradicts God and is recorded in the Bible accurately).

In this case, one might wonder what you mean "the Bible has no contradiction." Then, we'd also ask: Is there a contradiction between Jew and gentile (Acts 15) in what each was to observe? Etc. Etc. -Lon
I always imagined him hanging there dead until the rope or the tree broke and then he laid there, dead and bloated until he burst open.
 

Bladerunner

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He hanged himself. Which means there was something tall he had to use.

He fell headlong, meaning instead of jumping feet-first, he likely let himself fall with the noose around his neck.

The resulting whiplash killed him, and ripped him open, and his entrails gushed out as a result.

I'm not sure how you could get anything other than that from those passages... The text doesn't say the rope broke. It says Judas burst open. "Burst open" is the word used. ἐλάκησεν

The phrase is:

"headlong" "having fallen" "he burst open" "in [the] middle"
very Good, yet the rope had to come undone some way. It is just speculation what happened as we are not told...Yet, GOD did tell us this much so we can take it to the bank to be true.
 

Bladerunner

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Yes, exactly: At least we see apparent contradictions.

My question was to rather give example and then ask: "What do you mean by no contradiction?"

I think rather, we mean "The Bible is consistently true, even if it records something like a lie" rather than that it doesn't contain apparent contradiction. The first book in the bible contains a contradiction 3 chapters in: "Has God really said..." (the serpent contradicts God and is recorded in the Bible accurately).

In this case, one might wonder what you mean "the Bible has no contradiction." Then, we'd also ask: Is there a contradiction between Jew and gentile (Acts 15) in what each was to observe? Etc. Etc. -Lon
"Yea, hath God said" The serpent "contradicts" (in this case, meaning 'To assert to be untrue')- agreed but then by the def provided, a contradiction it was not.

I teach the 'dispensations' (7 of them) found in Bible are different time periods where GOD interacts with the people on Earth. Many refine this to Jews only. Yet, I have found it includes all peoples of earth. Acts 15:1 is a perfect example. God interacted with the people of Moses (OT) differently that those of the NT. While those that rejected Jesus remanded themselves to the Laws of Moses even though the Law and prophets were only until John (mat 11:13). The Gospel of Jesus Christ had its beginning in the NT which was rejected by Pharisees and Saducees. Their rejection would damn them and their fellow brethern to hell during this 5th and 6th dispensations.

Hope you have a good rest of the day Lon. thanks for the conversation.
 

JudgeRightly

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very Good, yet the rope had to come undone some way.

The Bible says nothing about the rope coming undone.

It is just speculation what happened as we are not told... Yet, GOD did tell us this much so we can take it to the bank to be true.

God told us that he hanged himself and that he burst open in the middle.

It doesn't say anything else. It doesn't need to.
 
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