I will not vote for trump

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

oh, i well understand the enthusiasm with which people throw the hypocrite card hereabouts

as if all of us don't have that beam in our eye in some form

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

when chrys stands in that booth in november and sees

D: Clinton

R: Trump

staring at him, you know as well as i do what he'll do

Totton Linnet · Mar 19, 2016

rocketman said:
You cannot change the constitution of a nation by fiat, or mob rule. It will take a 3/4 majority of these ingrates to change this nation, and as we see a greater majority are quite turned off by the changes that 48% wrought over the past 7 1/2 years, in fact I believe after living it, seeing the voting numbers, most Americans reject it and the worldview that comes with it. People want change for sure but, what the marxists have brought is not the change they were looking for and the pendulum has swung the other direction as we all can see.

They may be turned off [I am not so convinced] but what the Trump factor shows is that they sure aren't ready to come home to pappy [the GOP]

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

Town Heretic said:
He always said who he was "yelling at"...people who did what he's now about to do.

Seems a bit...problematic.

I find Chrys's current rant to be extremely humorous, he goes on and on with others that he will vote for the nominee and how they should too but, now that the nominee doesn't fit his sensibilities he abandons his position, taking up the opposing argument. It is just delicious I tell ya! :rotfl:

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

Totton Linnet said:
They may be turned off [I am not so convinced] but what the Trump factor shows is that they sure aren't ready to come home to pappy [the GOP]

The GOP is the same entity as the liberal left Totty, a different form yes but, the same government control, same crony ruling class, and society sees Trump as the answer to fixing that problem. Coming to Trump is a rejection of the GOP, pure & simple but, what he will bring is anyones guess, Trump's views are populist so they change with the wind, you never know the man might do a great job :idunno:. What the country needs is a constitutionalist, someone that will restore order & lead by the one document which has been the blueprint of America's success since it's inception, and outside of that I don't see any change that can last. Time will tell if we can recover our republic....

ClimateSanity · Mar 19, 2016

Timotheos said:
By getting some of them to vote for him, and getting enough dems to vote in the republican primaries.
As a point of fact, the majority of them do not support Trump. Has he ever gotten over 50%? I don't think so. The majority of votes has gone to "Not Trump".

The majority of the party switchover vote is non-trump? Stats for that?

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

ok doser said:
when chrys stands in that booth in november and sees

Clinton

Trump

staring at him, you know as well as i do what he'll do

Actually, at this point he is so wishy washy he might want another crony like Clinton to work with his RINO brethren, together they can finish off their job of destroying the country.

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

ok doser said:
oh, i well understand the enthusiasm with which people throw the hypocrite card hereabouts

as if all of us don't have that beam in our eye in some form

You didn't think Chrys was going to get away with an about face on a position he has not only held near & dear but, has been railing on others about did you? Please....

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

rocketman said:
You didn't think Chrys was going to get away with an about face on a position he has not only held near & dear but, has been railing on others about did you? Please....

well, he's half right, as far as i'm concerned - i've always advocated voting for the best candidate you can find in the primary and voting against the worst candidate running in the general

in the primaries, i wouldn't consider trump at all, except as a rude slap in the face to the RNC

in the general, i'd vote for whoever I had to to defeat hillary

(as if my vote counts in the general :ha: )

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

ok doser said:
well, he's half right, as far as i'm concerned - i've always advocated voting for the best candidate you can find in the primary and voting against the worst candidate running in the general

I agree with that as well but, that is not the position Chrys has waffled on now is it?

ok doser said:
in the primaries, i wouldn't consider trump at all, except as a rude slap in the face to the RNC

in the general, i'd vote for whoever I had to to defeat hillary

(as if my vote counts in the general :ha: )

Pretty much the same where I live as well but, we put our best effort forward to keep the felon out of office.

musterion · Mar 19, 2016

rocketman said:
You cannot have a country without specific laws, borders, language, and culture. When these tenets begin to erode you lose your national identity, it seems that the Brits surrendered many of these & more of their personal rights for a pseudo safe society where the government is charged with their wellbeing, they stand in awe of the turmoil that is going in America but, fail to see that Americans will not surrender these things quietly as they did, and I doubt they ever will.

Couple that with the legally protected imported population they now have to coexist with -- a population that doesn't simply refuse to coexist but wants to replace all that Britain is with the caliphate -- and they have little hope. It will soon reach the point where bloody armed revolt a la the French Revolution will be the only shot they have, but they'll lose when the E.U. sends all the blue helmets in to clean up. Sad to see the end of Britain coming but they had a choice at the end of WWII to remain capitalistic or go socialistic. They chose poorly.

(some say that putting two generations of their best through the meat grinders of both wars - especially the First - took its toll on the population that resulted, but I'm not fully convinced of that)

Arthur Brain · Mar 19, 2016

musterion said:
Couple that with the legally protected imported population they now have to coexist with -- a population that doesn't simply refuse to coexist but wants to replace all that Britain is with the caliphate -- and they have little hope. It will soon reach the point where bloody armed revolt a la the French Revolution will be the only shot they have, but they'll lose when the E.U. sends all the blue helmets in to clean up. Sad to see the end of Britain coming but they had a choice at the end of WWII to remain capitalistic or go socialistic. They chose poorly.

(some say that putting two generations of their best through the meat grinders of both wars - especially the First - took its toll on the population that resulted, but I'm not fully convinced of that)

You really have not even the remotest clue what you're talking about, but do carry on, it's kinda amusing...

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

rocketman said:
I agree with that as well but, that is not the position Chrys has waffled on now is it?

no, but he justifies it by saying that trump's a trojan horse for hillary

obviously, i don't agree, but i can see how he can hold his position without the apparent cognitive dissonance causing his head to explode :chuckle:

musterion · Mar 19, 2016

You really have not even the remotest clue what you're talking about, but do carry on, it's kinda amusing...

Man up, Arthur, and tell the unvarnished truth for once.

1. Are you legally allowed to own a firearm and ammunition?

2. Do you legally own a firearm and ammunition?

3. If someone attacks you in your home, do you have the legal right to use that firearm to defend yourself?

Now watch...

rocketman · Mar 19, 2016

ok doser said:
no, but he justifies it by saying that trump's a trojan horse for hillary

Yea that is what he is...:chuckle: I guess that will help him live with himself.

ok doser said:
obviously, i don't agree, but i can see how he can hold his position without the apparent cognitive dissonance causing his head to explode :chuckle:

Indeed! :chuckle:

Arthur Brain · Mar 19, 2016

musterion said:
Man up, Arthur, and tell the unvarnished truth for once.

1. Are you legally allowed to own a firearm and ammunition?

2. Do you legally own a firearm and ammunition?

3. If someone attacks you in your home, do you have the legal right to use that firearm to defend yourself?

Now watch...

No I don't own a firearm. Britain doesn't have a gun culture like America as bemusing as that may be to someone like you. You alarmists are just bonkers...

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
No I don't own a firearm. Britain doesn't have a gun culture like America as bemusing as that may be to someone like you. You alarmists are just bonkers...

that's a partial answer to one of his questions

when you sober up, take a crack at it again

Grosnick Marowbe · Mar 19, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
No I don't own a firearm. Britain doesn't have a gun culture like America as bemusing as that may be to someone like you. You alarmists are just bonkers...

No wonder we had to "save" you guys in WW2.

ok doser · Mar 19, 2016

Grosnick Marowbe said:
No wonder we had to "save" you guys in WW2.

i think they were still using flintlocks at the beginning of ww2

Grosnick Marowbe · Mar 19, 2016

Totton Linnet said:
We did not win our personal rights with guns....and Britain is still a great place to live, what America is heading for is every sob against every other sob and they ALL have guns

America will descend into anarchy....and then we are all down the pan

You "Brits" always depend on us for your safety, don't ya?

I will not vote for trump

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