HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE

[Ben Masada]

Jesus preached to the Jews who were still under the Law, NOT the Gentiles.

Jesus himself was under the Law. (Mat. 5:17-19; Luke 16:29-31)

Mt 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Nevertheless, he said that the Jews are the light unto the Gentiles. (Mat. 5:14)

Paul's Gospel of Grace was given to Him by the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ and is for the Gentiles.

So, when did he go to the Gentiles? All his life was in the synagogues of the Jews since his first station in Damascus and until his last one in Rome. (Acts 9:1,2 an 28:17)

Ro 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office.

Why was not Peter informed that he was no longer the apostle to the Gentiles? (Acts 15:7)

Secondly, the Direct Disciples of Jesus APPROVED of Paul's Message and Writings and accepted them as from the Lord. You should too. Unless you know more than they.

Who said so, Paul? I can't believe that! The disciples must have been trying to get rid of him so that he left Jerusalem to prevent another havoc like the first one Paul caused the first time he visited the city.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Paul is the one responsible for the Gentiles getting the Gospel and Peter DID approve of it. This Link Is a Wealth of Information on it. It will give you all of the answers that you seek. http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

Peter Supports Paul's Gospel and admits that Grace is hard for him (as a Jew) to Understand:

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Please take the time to read this first post if you haven't yet.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

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[Ben Masada]

Paul is the one responsible for the Gentiles getting the Gospel and Peter DID approve of it. This Link Is a Wealth of Information on it. It will give you all of the answers that you seek. http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

Peter Supports Paul's Gospel and admits that Grace is hard for him (as a Jew) to Understand:

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter never wrote those two Letters. Evidence of what I am saying, you will find in 2 Cor. 1:19, I Thess. 1:1 and II Thess. 2:1 after reading I Peter 5:12. Silvanus was the scribe of Paul, not Peter's. Paul would never allow his scribe to get dictation from Peter a Jew of the circumcision. Paul would preach to the Jews to stop circumcising their children. (Acts 21:21)

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Peter most certainly did write those two letters. Most Scholars would disagree with what you are saying. Merely mentioning the name of Silvanus doesn't prove your point. Paul preached to the Gentiles not the Jews. So, the who argument about him preaching to the Jews to stop circumcising their children is false. The Jews were under that gospel of the Kingdom, Paul preached to the gentiles who were under the gospel of grace.

 

[Ben Masada]

Peter most certainly did write those two letters. Most Scholars would disagree with what you are saying. Merely mentioning the name of Silvanus doesn't prove your point. Paul preached to the Gentiles not the Jews. So, the who argument about him preaching to the Jews to stop circumcising their children is false. The Jews were under that gospel of the Kingdom, Paul preached to the gentiles who were under the gospel of grace.

As I can see, you have no interest in understanding what you read even in your own NT. Even the Catholic Church responsible for the NAB testimonies in a preface to those letters attributed to Peter that they were written around 90-95 ACE when Peter had been dead since 67 ACE by execution in Rome under Nero government. And again, Paul would never permit his scribe to take dictation from an apostle of the circumcision which was Peter. Besides, Luke talks about Peter having been a peasant-like illiterate man. Such people don't write books. (Acts 4:13)

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

It's not ACE, it's A.D. The Scholars would disagree with you. The First NT book was written around the 50s A.D. and The last book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 90 A.D. You sound like a Liberal. You probably don't even believe what's inside the Bible either. Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh? Yes or No?

 

[Ben Masada]

It's not ACE, it's A.D. The Scholars would disagree with you. The First NT book was written around the 50s A.D. and The last book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 90 A.D. You sound like a Liberal. You probably don't even believe what's inside the Bible either. Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh? Yes or No?

Of course not! Jesus was a Jew whose Faith was Judaism. Judaism does not adopt the Greek myth of the demigod which is the son of a god with an earthly woman. This idea that Jesus was god is a Hellenist doctrine adopted by Christianity.

 

[aikido7]

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will Admit to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, Believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and Accept Him as your Lord and Savior and you will be forgiven and taken to heaven to be with Him when you die.

Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your trust in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?

ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe it with all of your heart, you could pray something like this to God from your heart:

"Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

Before he died, my dad said that when you die it will either be the most profound and amazing journey we will ever take or it will be absolutely nothing.

I no longer am fixated on Heaven or getting there. Jesus preached a Kingdom of God ON EARTH as it is in Heaven. It's the world where the problems are. Heaven is fine and can take care of itself.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Jesus will set up His Kingdom on the earth when He returns true, but Jesus is in heaven right now and if a Christian dies, he goes to heaven. When Jesus returns to the earth, then the Christians will come with Him.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

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[Ben Masada]

Jesus will set up His Kingdom on the earth when He returns true, but Jesus is in heaven right now and if a Christian dies, he goes to heaven. When Jesus returns to the earth, then the Christians will come with Him.

What a delusion! Did you know that Jesus was a Jew? The Jewish Scriptures says that once dead no one will ever return. Read Isa. 26:14; 2 Sam. 12:23; and Job 10:21. These are only three of many quotes in the only Scriptures that Jesus used to refer to as the Word of God.

 

[Ben Masada]

It's not ACE, it's A.D. The Scholars would disagree with you. The First NT book was written around the 50s A.D. and The last book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 90 A.D. You sound like a Liberal. You probably don't even believe what's inside the Bible either. Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh? Yes or No?

Jesus was a Jew. A Jew cannot be God. Even as a Greek, the closest to God he could have achieved was as a son of god which is what Paul believed he was. (Acts 9:20) But then again this is according to the Greek myth of the demigod which is the son of a god with an earthly woman. Judaism which was the Faith of Jesus does not endorse such a doctrine.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Jesus was a Jew. A Jew cannot be God. Even as a Greek, the closest to God he could be was as a son of god which is what Paul believed. (Acts 9:20) But then again this is according to the Greek myth of the demigod which is the son of a god with an earthly woman. Judaism which was the Faith of Jesus does not endorse such a doctrine.

Jesus Christ IS God

There are some religions out there that believe and teach that Jesus Christ is not God. Some teach that He is a god, but not thee God. I am going to demonstrate through the word of God that He is God and created all things.

Jesus’s name “Immanuel” LITERALLY means “God with us”

Mt 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

Isa 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

He always existed (from everlasting):

Mic 5:2 (NKJV) "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, [Though] you are little among the thousands of Judah, [Yet] out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth [are] from of old, From everlasting."

This prophecy is of Christ's first comming. His Goings forth have been from everlasting because Christ Jesus is God.

Jesus Christ is one with the Father. He is God.

Joh 14:8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one God:

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

Jesus declares Himself to be the great I AM of the Old Testiment. I AM is God's Name

Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

I am IS God. There is only one God. That God has three parts.

Ex 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

His Disciple/Apostle Peter Admits that Jesus knows “All things” (Only God knows all things)

Joh 21:17 He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, "Do you love Me?" And he said to Him, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You." Jesus said to him, "Feed My sheep.

In Him Dwells all of the fullness of the Godhead Bodily:

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. {rudiments: or, elements} {make a prey: or, seduce you, or, lead you astray} For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: {his...: Gr. the Son of his love}
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. {in...: or, among all} 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;


God's plurality is found in Genesis

Ge 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

His Disciple/Apostle Thomas Confessed Him to be God and Jesus did NOT rebuke Him for it:

Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

This verse demonstrates how God has multiple aspects. He said Let “US” make man in “OUR” image. He didn’t say, let me make man in My image, He said let US make man is OUR image.

His Apostle/Disciple John declares Christ Jesus to be God:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

His Apostle/Disciple John declares that the world was made by Him (Jesus Christ)

Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

All things were made by Him and He was in the beginning with God (Father)

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

There are MANY places where He is worshipped and Jesus NEVER tells them not to worship Him, NOT once. Only God is to be worshipped, because Jesus IS God, Jesus IS worshipped:

Mt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. {presented: or, offered}
Mt 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Mt 9:18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
Mt 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Mt 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mt 18:26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. {worshipped him: or, besought him}
Mt 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
Mt 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Mr 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
Mr 15:19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him.
Lu 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Ac 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Scripture refers to Him as the Lord, Jesus Christ. The phrase "The Lord" is unique only to God:

Here are a few mentioning "The Lord Your God"

De 5:6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. {bondage: Heb. servants}

De 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

De 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

De 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.


Here are many calling Him Jesus Christ, The Lord.

Ac 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Ac 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Ac 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Ro 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ro 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Ro 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

2Co 1:2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. <<The second [epistle to the Corinthians was written from Philippi, a city of Macedonia, by Titus and Lucas.]>>

Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Eph 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Php 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: {conversation...: or, we live or conduct ourselves as citizens of heaven, or, for obtaining heaven}

Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Th 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.


Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal, yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son. Jesus Christ was an EXAMPLE for us. He died on the cross for our sins so that we could go to heaven and be forgiven of our sins. He shed His blood for us.

 

[Ben Masada]

Jesus Christ IS God

Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal, yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son. Jesus Christ was an EXAMPLE for us. He died on the cross for our sins so that we could go to heaven and be forgiven of our sins. He shed His blood for us.

Xfrodobagginsx, I read you whole long post but I found too tedious to give an answer to every paragraph. So, I decided to go for the conclusion.

First of all, Jesus was a Jew and a Jew could not be God. Besides, the Trinity is not an item in the gospel of Jesus which was Judaism. When you say that he is the God of the Bible, you must mean the NT because to the Tanach this sounds idolatry.

Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins because, as a loyal Jew, he would not contradict the Prophets who say that no one can die for the sins of another. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20) For having said that he had come to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, he would not now just go ahead and contradict the Prophets and himself. (Mat. 5:17-19)

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Jesus was God in the flesh. The bible is quite clear. You aren't believing the Word of God, you are trusting in your own reasoning. The Bible is clear on that He is God. You obviously don't believe what the Bible says if you are going to attempt to claim that Jesus Christ didn't die on the cross for our sins. Even Secular Historians affirm that.

 

[Lon]

Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins because, as a loyal Jew, he would not contradict the Prophets who say that no one can die for the sins of another. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20)

:nono:

Jer 31:30 But everyone shall die for his own iniquity.
See then, Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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2Co 5:21 For our sake God made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

If you really knew the OT scriptures, you'd realize that your dissonance is derived from your own head. These scriptures have NO prohibition for our need of a Savior. Furthermore, the Messianic need is not for a new land, but a new heart free from sin. Jeremiah 31:33 It is incredibly clear in the O.T.

For having said that he had come to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, he would not now just go ahead and contradict the Prophets and himself. (Mat. 5:17-19)

He didn't. He simply contradicted you and your wrong-headed idea.

 

[Ben Masada]

Jesus was God in the flesh. The bible is quite clear. You aren't believing the Word of God, you are trusting in your own reasoning. The Bible is clear on that He is God. You obviously don't believe what the Bible says if you are going to attempt to claim that Jesus Christ didn't die on the cross for our sins. Even Secular Historians affirm that.

What bible, the gospel of Paul? Tell me something new? That's why he was chased away from Jerusalem for preaching idolatry. (Acts 9:20,29)

 

[Ben Masada]

: If you really knew the OT scriptures, you'd realize that your dissonance is derived from your own head. These scriptures have NO prohibition for our need of a Savior. Furthermore, the Messianic need is not for a new land, but a new heart free from sin. Jeremiah 31:33 It is incredibly clear in the O.T.

He didn't. He simply contradicted you and your wrong-headed idea.

Sorry Lon, but you are clearly on denial of the truth as you put all your eggs in the basket of Paul. That man had to deflect the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism in order to found his Hellenistic church in the city of Antioch. (Acts 11:26)