Forced Immunizations

glorydaz

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Common substances found in vaccines include:


Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine.
Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin.
Egg protein is found in yellow fever and most influenza vaccines, which are prepared using chicken eggs. Ordinarily, persons who are able to eat eggs or egg products safely can receive these vaccines.
Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.
Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity.
Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria.
For children with a prior history of allergic reactions to any of these substance



https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
 

Stripe

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This debate is overly polarized, beacuse each side seems to lump every vaccine together.

I think some vaccines are fine, and some are worth avoiding.

However, the government should never be demanding that they be administered.
 
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chair

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This debate is overly polarized, beacuse each side seems to lump every vaccine together.

I think some vaccines are fine, and some are worth aoiding.

However, the government should never be demanding that they be administered.

The question of whether the vaccines are worthwhile and safe enough is a separate one from the question of whether the government should be forcing people to vaccinate their children.
 

Stripe

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The question of whether the vaccines are worthwhile and safe enough is a separate one from the question of whether the government should be forcing people to vaccinate their children.

Agreed.
 

aCultureWarrior

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You'll find just as many parents whose children have died or are severely injured by the vaccines.

What do you say to them? I've heard them. I've seen the children who survived, but cannot speak or who live with autism. Why is autism so prevalent? Yes, the truth is coming out, and the secret is being uncovered.

It just so happens that I've spent a fair amount of time chatting with a guy in another forum who not only lost his dad to medical malpractice, but his wife too!

How sad.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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The question of whether the vaccines are worthwhile and safe enough is a separate one from the question of whether the government should be forcing people to vaccinate their children.

THIS is the primary issue. The slippery slope to selective genocide, just as we’ve seen with abortion progression. Euthanasia of all kinds are just a few baby steps away from this.
 

glorydaz

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This debate is overly polarized, beacuse each side seems to lump every vaccine together.

I think some vaccines are fine, and some are worth avoiding.

However, the government should never be demanding that they be administered.

I agree, but they're making it so we can't choose. They are lumping vaccines together, and insisting we get them all in order to go to school, walk around in the public square (NY, for example), and what will it be next?
 

chair

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THIS is the primary issue. The slippery slope to selective genocide, just as we’ve seen with abortion progression. Euthanasia of all kinds are just a few baby steps away from this.

It's a real issue, but the "slippery slope" argument is a bit far fetched. One can use that to argue against any minor thing. "If you let people yell at each other, it's a slippery slope to murder."

The coercion in this case is limiting who can go to public schools or childcare. It takes a lot of imagination to think that will lead to genocide. And there is the question of the rights of the other children in the class.

It's a complex question- how to handle things when public health and civil rights conflict. I don't know of a simple answer to this, but admitting that it is a complex problem would be a good place to start. Claiming that this will lead to genocide is not very helpful in this discussion.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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It's a real issue, but the "slippery slope" argument is a bit far fetched. One can use that to argue against any minor thing. "If you let people yell at each other, it's a slippery slope to murder."

The coercion in this case is limiting who can go to public schools or childcare. It takes a lot of imagination to think that will lead to genocide. And there is the question of the rights of the other children in the class.

It's a complex question- how to handle things when public health and civil rights conflict. I don't know of a simple answer to this, but admitting that it is a complex problem would be a good place to start. Claiming that this will lead to genocide is not very helpful in this discussion.

It’s not far-fetched at all. Abortion has now become infanticide. There are already bills and laws in process for certain forms of euthanasia (elderly mental patients, primarily at this time). It’s an eventual inevitability.
 

chair

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It’s not far-fetched at all. Abortion has now become infanticide. There are already bills and laws in process for certain forms of euthanasia (elderly mental patients, primarily at this time). It’s an eventual inevitability.

Hello? This is not abortion, or infanticide, or murder. It is a question of whether non-immunized children should be allowed in the to classroom. There is a legitimate question of civil rights here, and you do your cause harm by saying that it will lead to genocide- because that argument is plainly exaggerated and silly.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Hello? This is not abortion, or infanticide, or murder. It is a question of whether non-immunized children should be allowed in the to classroom. There is a legitimate question of civil rights here, and you do your cause harm by saying that it will lead to genocide- because that argument is plainly exaggerated and silly.

Only to those who don’t have any idea of the scope of the spirit of antichrist in this age, and the agendas that are in place at very high levels. And it’s not a difficult civil rights issue at all. Forcible vaccinations (not to be confused with immunizations) are an abhorrent atrocity against individual liberty (not that much of anything isn’t at this point in the 1984/Brave New World/Idiocracy confluence that is modern enculturated pseudo-reality).

There are already many forms of slow genocide. There’s no money in medical cures, only in extended treatment of symptoms, etc. The old and sick are already being marginalized, and legislation is here and/or coming for several heinous purposes that distill to areas of gradual genocide.

I’m not really concerned whether you or others know much about things like UN Agenda 2030, but significant worldwide depopulation is definitely one of the primary goals of the “elite” going into the next decade.
 

chair

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Only to those who don’t have any idea of the scope of the spirit of antichrist in this age, and the agendas that are in place at very high levels. And it’s not a difficult civil rights issue at all. Forcible vaccinations (not to be confused with immunizations) are an abhorrent atrocity against individual liberty (not that much of anything isn’t at this point in the 1984/Brave New World/Idiocracy confluence that is modern enculturated pseudo-reality).

There are already many forms of slow genocide. There’s no money in medical cures, only in extended treatment of symptoms, etc. The old and sick are already being marginalized, and legislation is here and/or coming for several heinous purposes that distill to areas of gradual genocide.

I’m not really concerned whether you or others know much about things like UN Agenda 2030, but significant worldwide depopulation is definitely one of the primary goals of the “elite” going into the next decade.

Well, I see where you are coming from. Not everybody shares your convictions and fears. If you hope to convince others, you'd be better off sticking straightforward rational arguments.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Well, I see where you are coming from. Not everybody shares your convictions and fears. If you hope to convince others, you'd be better off sticking straightforward rational arguments.

You evidently presume I’m trying to convince others; and your subjective assessment of “straightforward rational arguments” is duly noted. :)
 

glorydaz

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It just so happens that I've spent a fair amount of time chatting with a guy in another forum who not only lost his dad to medical malpractice, but his wife too!

How sad.

Yeah, what do they know...

It takes between 11 and 15 years to meet all the education and training requirements to become a medical doctor. This includes an undergraduate degree, medical school and a residency...
https://study.com/training_needed_to_become_a_doctor.html

:popcorn:
 
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