For Those Who Still Insist That There Was Election Fraud

[Arthur Brain]

I don't care.

The point was, it swayed the election.



Actually, I am.



Except that I was watching. It was all but radio silence.



"WP"? The Washington Post?



Reading is your second language, isn't it? I just got done explaining how it wasn't the investigation that was squashed.







What do you want evidence for?

Well, it didn't sway the election but of course you keep telling yourself that. Oh, part of your job is being the arbiter of what gets published is it? Do you work for TGP after all then? It wasn't 'radio silence' at all and who knows what channels you were watching...The NY Post is what I meant.

Oh, and no evidence from you once again. Haven't got any have ya? No shame in it doofus but about time you admitted it really.

 

[marke]

Well, it didn't sway the election but of course you keep telling yourself that. Oh, part of your job is being the arbiter of what gets published is it? Do you work for TGP after all then? It wasn't 'radio silence' at all and who knows what channels you were watching...The NY Post is what I meant.

Oh, and no evidence from you once again. Haven't got any have ya? No shame in it doofus but about time you admitted it really.

Nobody I know of has claimed democrats have produced enough reliable evidence to convince the American public that no fraud occurred in the 2020 election or that no fraud can occur in the future. Is it important that the appearance of fraud is refuted or that the perception that possible future fraud has been eliminated? Absolutely. Rather than fight against accusations of fraud democrats should be busy doing everything they can to support efforts designed to eliminate the possibility of fraud, but they are not, and that is a failure on their part.

Appearance Matters: Why the State has an Interest in Preventing the Appearance of Voting Fraud - NYU Law Review

This Note seeks to show that the state has an interest not only in preventing voting fraud, but also in preventing the appearance of voting fraud. Drawing an analogy to campaign finance law, this Note argues that if the state has an interest in preventing the appearance of corruption in election...

www.nyulawreview.org

This Note seeks to show that the state has an interest not only in preventing voting fraud, but also in preventing the appearance of voting fraud. Drawing an analogy to campaign finance law, this Note argues that if the state has an interest in preventing the appearance of corruption in election financing, then courts should also recognize such an interest in preventing the appearance of voting fraud in elections. The state has this interest in elections for the same reason it does in campaign finance law: Voters who perceive fraud may lose faith in the democratic process and consequently drop out of that process. Borrowing from the standard of proof courts have used in the campaign finance context, this Note analyzes popular opinion, media reports, and legislators’ statements to determine that the appearance of voting fraud exists—and thus concludes that the state should be permitted to act on its interest in combating that appearance. Photo identification requirements have attracted particular controversy as a method of combating voting fraud. This Note analyzes photo identification requirements as an example of antifraud laws which might not be constitutional if the state’s only interest were in preventing the actual fraud, but might be constitutionally permissible if the appearance-of-corruption interest is considered.

 

[Stripe]

Well, it didn't sway the election but of course you keep telling yourself that. Oh, part of your job is being the arbiter of what gets published is it? Do you work for TGP after all then? It wasn't 'radio silence' at all and who knows what channels you were watching...The NY Post is what I meant.

Oh, and no evidence from you once again. Haven't got any have ya? No shame in it doofus but about time you admitted it really.

Keep screeching.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Keep screeching.

Nah, you were never gonna have any anyway poor guy. Have fun in your job!

 

[Stripe]

Nah, you were never gonna have any anyway.

Evidence?

Like the fact that Hunter Biden's laptop contained messages indicating that former vice president Joe Biden is part of a money trail going through Ukraine and China?

Evidence like that reporting on the subject was either ignored by the establishment media or suppressed?

Evidence that suggested the election result might have been reversed had people known about the story?

That evidence that I'm "never going to have"?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Evidence?

Like the fact that Hunter Biden's laptop contained messages indicating that former vice president Joe Biden is part of a money trail going through Ukraine and China?

Evidence like that reporting on the subject was either ignored by the establishment media or suppressed?

Evidence that suggested the election result might have been reversed had people known about the story?

That evidence that I'm "never going to have"?

Your "evidence" relates to an ongoing investigation that hasn't verified anything yet.

There was no media blackout on the story and it wasn't suppressed, your "ideals" of how it should have been reported notwithstanding.

Your hot air and speculation is not suggestive of anything resembling and sure doesn't count as evidence.

So, yeah, nothing doing on the evidence front there Stripe and that's on this alone. Any forthcoming on all of these other supposed instances of "cheating" that you've prattled on about?

There isn't is there?

 

[marke]

Your "evidence" relates to an ongoing investigation that hasn't verified anything yet.

There was no media blackout on the story and it wasn't suppressed, your "ideals" of how it should have been reported notwithstanding.

Your hot air and speculation is not suggestive of anything resembling and sure doesn't count as evidence.

So, yeah, nothing doing on the evidence front there Stripe and that's on this alone. Any forthcoming on all of these other supposed instances of "cheating" that you've prattled on about?

There isn't is there?

The "ongoing investigation" has proven leftist investigators supportive of Biden and corrupt democrats will obstruct justice and hide incriminating evidence against Biden that clears Trump.

 

[Stripe]

Your "evidence" relates to an ongoing investigation that hasn't verified anything yet.

Nope.

There is a laptop that has been found. Fact. That there is an investigation into Hunter Biden does not change that fact. Fact.

Reporting on the subject was either ignored by the establishment media or suppressed. Fact. That you have done nothing to establish otherwise does nothing to bolster your counter-claim. Do a search of the wires — AP, AFP, Reuters — in the week around the release of the New York Post report. What you'll find is mentions of Hunter Biden are generally paragraph six of a report that has little to do with what was actually discovered and typically worded in such a way to minimize any appearance of impropriety. Facts.

There are polls that show the election result might have been reversed had people known about the story. Fact. That you stamp your feet and demand that polls are unreliable when you don't like them does not change the facts. Fact.

There was no media blackout on the story and it wasn't suppressed.

Nonsense. When you have the son of a candidate for US president caught up in an apparent quid pro quo that draws in his father — not to mention the other sordid details — that is what should be reported. Not the weak-tea, sixth-paragraph stuff that actually came across.

Remember, the establishment media has spent seven years and counting linking Trump — and everyone even remotely connected to him — to an utterly bogus Russia/Ukraine hoax. You almost cannot go a day without seeing something on the wires dedicated to pushing that fraud.

Your hot air and speculation is not suggestive of anything resembling anything and sure ain't a counter to the evidence.

So, yeah, nothing doing on the input front there, Brain, and that's on this alone.

Any forthcoming on all of these other ... instances of "cheating"?

Is reading your second language?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Nope.

There is a laptop that has been found. Fact. That there is an investigation into Hunter Biden does not change that fact. Fact.

Reporting on the subject was either ignored by the establishment media or suppressed. Fact. That you have done nothing to establish otherwise does nothing to bolster your counter-claim. Do a search of the wires — AP, AFP, Reuters — in the week around the release of the New York Post report. What you'll find is mentions of Hunter Biden are generally paragraph six of a report that has little to do with what was actually discovered and typically worded in such a way to minimize any appearance of impropriety. Facts.

There are polls that show the election result might have been reversed had people known about the story. Fact. That you stamp your feet and demand that polls are unreliable when you don't like them does not change the facts. Fact.



Nonsense. When you have the son of a candidate for US president caught up in an apparent quid pro quo that draws in his father — not to mention the other sordid details — that is what should be reported. Not the weak-tea, sixth paragraph stuff that actually came across.

Remember, the establishment media has spent seven years and counting linking Trump — and everyone even remotely connected to him — to an utterly bogus Russia/Ukraine hoax. You almost cannot go a day without seeing something on the wires dedicated to pushing that fraud.

Your hot air and speculation is not suggestive of anything resembling anything and sure ain't a counter to the evidence.

So, yeah, nothing doing on the input front there, Brain, and that's on this alone.



Is reading your second language?

The fact is, nothing has been verified so claiming an ongoing investigation is "evidence" is just...silly. It isn't. There was no media blackout as you're aware, fact. That how it was reported doesn't meet your standards is entirely moot. It was readily available. Your contention is speculation and nothing more. Telling how you're so invested in issues regarding Hunter and not so much where it comes to the myriad issues surrounding Trump. Polls are unreliable Stripe, even you should be aware of that much. Sure didn't do Clinton any good back in 2016.

So, as it stands, you've no evidence, just a whole load of squawk...to be fair, you couldn't have really. If Trump's legal team and highly paid sycophants can't come up with the goods then what are the odds on some dope from Taipei sitting on a treasure trove of the stuff? Just not happening is it?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Evidence?

Like the fact that Hunter Biden's laptop contained messages indicating that former vice president Joe Biden is part of a money trail going through Ukraine and China?

Evidence like that reporting on the subject was either ignored by the establishment media or suppressed?

Evidence that suggested the election result might have been reversed had people known about the story?

That evidence that I'm "never going to have"?

For a laugh, let's recap on your "contributions" to this thread. You waded in on page 40 something (if you were here before then then eh, who cares?) with some ludicrous nonsense about those who accepted the certified results of the 2020 election being conspiracy theorists.

Then some rant about 'big tech' & media etc.

A whole load of interminable waffle about Georgia & 'ongoing litigation' despite the fact that investigations and audits into Georgia and other states confirmed that no such widespread fraud had taken place, just isolated pockets of potential voter fraud that if combined in one state alone would barely cause a ripple on a pond...

You were blithely unaware of forecasts made on election night itself that came to fruition and reduced to calling such narrative. A bizarre posit that media coverage itself was "despondent" when it was simply doing what it does any given election - reporting what was happening/going on.

Some rambling stuff about Hunter Biden that hasn't been established and whining about insufficient media coverage along with garbled claims regarding many ways of cheating that you lack both specifics and evidence for.

Well, that pretty much covers it and that which is asserted without evidence can be summarily dismissed and laughed at - along with the clown that asserts it.

 

[marke]

Your "evidence" relates to an ongoing investigation that hasn't verified anything yet.

There was no media blackout on the story and it wasn't suppressed, your "ideals" of how it should have been reported notwithstanding.

Your hot air and speculation is not suggestive of anything resembling and sure doesn't count as evidence.

So, yeah, nothing doing on the evidence front there Stripe and that's on this alone. Any forthcoming on all of these other supposed instances of "cheating" that you've prattled on about?

There isn't is there?

Do leftist politicians avoid the publication of news they do not like? Absolutely, like this news related to Biden's shut down of the criminal investigation of Burisma that involved Burisma official Hunter Biden.

National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In April 2020, former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Viktor Shokin expressed the opinion that the initiator of the establishment of NABU in 2015 was the then US Vice President Joe Biden in order to "steal the investigation powers from the State Bureau of Investigations to NABU and put there emissaries who listen to the United States".[27] Victor Shokin has previously complained about pressure on his activities from Joe Biden in the investigation of the Burisma case and wrote a statement to the State Bureau of Investigation about the disclosure a secret information by NABU staff and Shokin's personal data leak to US embassy in Ukraine.[23][24]

Biden claimed he was not satisfied with the pace of the investigation involving Burisma and his son, so he had Shokin fired and the investigation shut down. The contradictory nature of Biden's claim gives support toShokin's claim that Biden pressured Ukraine to transfer the investigation from Shokin's office to NABU where it was essentially shut down, sealing all records of Burisma's criminal activities from public view.

There had been an ongoing investigation into Hunter Biden's connections between Joe Biden and Burisma but those records had been sealed by the time the lying devil Adam Schiff falsely claimed Trump was trying to get Zelenskyy to create false reports of a non-existent investigation into the Biden's involvement in Ukraine corruption. Trump was not asking for Zelenskyy to invent reports of a non-existent investigation but was asking the new President of Ukraine to help American investigators in their already ongoing investigation into American involvement in Ukraine corruption.

Democrats and the leftist American media covered up the facts, giving support to the illegal and unjust impeachment of the legally elected President of the United States.

 

[marke]

Some rambling stuff about Hunter Biden that hasn't been established and whining about insufficient media coverage along with garbled claims regarding many ways of cheating that you lack both specifics and evidence for.

Hunter Biden was up to his eyeballs in corruption with his "big guy" dad reaping huge financial rewards from the crooked and treasonous deals. Just because democrats have been so successful at obstructing investigations into the corruption and hiding or destroying evidence does not mean you can prove the Bidens were not wickedly involved in crooked deals with corrupt foreigners they have been proven to have been involved with.

 

[Stripe]

Nothing has been verified

Nothing?

No laptop was found?

No e-mail chains have been published?

No reports have been published?

No polls have been conducted?

Let me tell you, all these things have been verified. They are actually legitimate parts of the body of evidence. Notice what you bring to the conversation...

Claiming an ongoing investigation is "evidence" is just silly.

An ongoing investigation is evidence that there is an ongoing investigation. It looks like you are utterly incapable of parsing a conversation and allowing components where they are justified.

There was no media blackout

You can do this yourself. Search the major wire agencies for mentions of Hunter Biden in the week after the New York Post report was published. You'll find that his name is buried and his alleged activities brushed over.

As you're aware. Fact.

That how it was reported doesn't meet your standards is entirely moot.

It was quashed. It was a major story. It was squashed. This had an effect.

It was readily available.

So were stories about bat boys. As has been pointed out, if a story is not in a person's normal aggregator, it will not get to them, no matter how available it is. When a story is barred from Twitter, all the people who get their political input from Twitter will be less likely to see it.

It looks like these things are just too complicated for you to understand.

Your contentions are speculation and nothing more.

Telling how you're so invested in issues regarding Hunter and not so much where it comes to the myriad issues surrounding Trump.

I don't care.

Polls are unreliable

And yet, there it is. Evidence. Facts.

Sure, you don't like them, but there it is. What do you bring to the table besides your narrative and denials of reality?

So, as it stands, you've no evidence, just a whole load of squawk. To be fair, you couldn't have really.

That which is asserted without evidence can be summarily dismissed and laughed at — along with the clown who asserts it.

 

[Rusha]

Well, that pretty much covers it and that which is asserted without evidence can be summarily dismissed and laughed at - along with the clown that asserts it.

The Orange Blob will be obsessing over his humiliating defeat until he takes his last breath…

 

[marke]

The Orange Blob will be obsessing over his humiliating defeat until he takes his last breath…

The "Orange Blob" may end in hell if he dies without having his sins forgiven, where many of his hateful accusers will also end up if they do not have their sins forgiven. How ironic.

 

[Stripe]

The Orange Blob will be obsessing over his humiliating defeat until he takes his last breath…

"Dynamite drop-in, Monty. That broadcast school is really paying off."

 

[User Name]

The "Orange Blob" may end in hell if he dies without having his sins forgiven

 

[Rusha]

Um, ewww.

 

[User Name]

Um, ewww.

Makes you want to go vegetarian?

 

[Rusha]

Makes you want to go vegetarian?

It really does.