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john w

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I didn't ask you about mysteries of the kingdom. I asked about the inheritance believing Gentiles co-inherit...was it revealed before Paul spoke of it? Yes or no.

His MO: bob and weave, dodge ball, rabbit trails, change the subject, so much so, that he is tangled in a mess of neurons, and ropes, and yarn, and cobwebs, as a twisted pretzel.

And the punk, in hypocrisy, constantly wines, on every thread, how us meanie dispies won't answer his trap questions.
 

musterion

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His MO: bob and weave, dodge ball, rabbit trails, change the subject, so much so, that he is tangled in a mess of neurons, and ropes, and yarn, and cobwebs, as a twisted pretzel.

And the punk, in hypocrisy, constantly wines, on every thread, how us meanie dispies won't answer his trap questions.

You and others here know where my question leads. He doesn't but he knows something is up.
 

tetelestai

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I didn't ask you about mysteries of the kingdom. I asked about the inheritance believing Gentiles co-inherit...was it revealed before Paul spoke of it? Yes or no.

The "inheritance believing Gentiles co-inherit" was part of the mysteries of the kingdom of God.

The Parable of the Laborers in the Vineyard describes the Gentiles becoming fellow heirs with the Israelites.
 

tetelestai

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Ephesians 3:6 KJV - Ephesians 3:7 KJV - Whereof I was made a minister, according to the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Paul was a minister of the New Covenant.

(2 Cor 3:6) He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.


It's really that simple.

The New Covenant was promised to the House of Israel and the House of Judah. The Gentiles became fellow heirs with the promise of a New Covenant. Paul was a minister of the New Covenant who preached the New Covenant to the Gentiles.

Dispensationalism (Darby Followers) butcher these simple truths because Darby's rapture, 7 year trib, anti-christ, etc. don't work out with these Biblical truths.
 

1Mind1Spirit

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I didn't ask you about mysteries of the kingdom. I asked about the inheritance believing Gentiles co-inherit...was it revealed before Paul spoke of it? Yes or no.

Yes.

Way before.


19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted , that your sins may be blotted out , when the times of refreshing shall come * from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:



22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went .
23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean : from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
31 Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
33 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded .
34 And the desolate land shall be tilled , whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by .
35 And they shall say , This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced , and are inhabited .
36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate : I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
37 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
38 As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
 
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Arsenios

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They are just blinded to the fact that a pattern comes first. An "them which should HEREAFTER believe on him to life everlasting" FOLLOW the PATTERN.

It's just so simple.

They also completely ignore the "for THIS cause".

So what, as you understand it, is this pattern that Paul is naming himself to be here, and how is it that you then conform yourself to it...

Arsenios
 

tetelestai

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AD70 is your mantra!

I believe what the Apostle Paul said:

(1 Cor 10:11) These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.


Why did Paul say himself, and the people he was speaking to, were living during "the culmination of the ages"?

Was Paul mistaken by about 2,000 years and still counting?
 
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