Everyone Will Die For His Own Sin

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Paul said they law is spiritual, that means sin is spiritual.

If Jesus didn't die spiritually then he didn't die for sin.

Justice required Jesus' soul not be destroyed since he did nothing worthy of death.

Because of Jesus' death we need only die once but live twice.

You are speaking insanity.

Get a hold of your imagination.

The spirit doesn't die.

After Jesus died on the cross, he went to hell and preached the gospel there.

Then he raised his flesh himself.
 

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Gestation, whether spiritual or physical, requires a period of time.

Those born of the Spirit are not flesh according to Jesus.

If you bleed then you are not Spirit. Spirits don't bleed.

Our flesh bleeds by our spirits don't bleed and die.
 

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If he continued to live then he didn't die.

Jesus said he was dead ... DEAD.

You believe death is just another form of life.

Do animal spirits return to the Father? I believe they do.

"For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals, one thing befalls them; as one dies so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath, man has no advantage over animals for all is vanity. All go to one place: all are from the dust and all return to dust. Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:19-21)

Get over yourself. Believe what is plainly written.
 

Lazy afternoon

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You are speaking insanity.

Get a hold of your imagination.

The spirit doesn't die.

After Jesus died on the cross, he went to hell and preached the gospel there.

Then he raised his flesh himself.

What a joke.

You deny Jesus died.

Your jesus is the Father in a human body, thus denying the atonement.

It was the Christ who was in the mouth of the preachers in Noahs time, not Jesus who was born through Mary.

I say these things, not to change you, but to point out to others who do seek the truth of Gods word.

LA
 

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What a joke.

You deny Jesus died.

Your jesus is the Father in a human body, thus denying the atonement.

It was the Christ who was in the mouth of the preachers in Noahs time, not Jesus who was born through Mary.

I say these things, not to change you, but to point out to others who do seek the truth of Gods word.

LA

LA,

Scriptural adherence is a razors edge. We know that Jesus is the "presence of God". This is revealed in all scripture. There is the Father (Spirit), Son (Glory/Presence) and the Holy Spirit (Soul/Indwellng Presence of God).

You and GT would become immediately in track if you would both take scripture with faith, instead of forcing the matter to moralism or Unitarian BiUnity.

I know this will be discounted by you, but Isaiah 9:6 holds.

- EE
 

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What a joke.

You deny Jesus died.

Your jesus is the Father in a human body, thus denying the atonement.

It was the Christ who was in the mouth of the preachers in Noahs time, not Jesus who was born through Mary.

I say these things, not to change you, but to point out to others who do seek the truth of Gods word.

LA

The scriptures say plainly that Jesus died and went to prison/hell and preached there.

You deny the truth.

You also deny that we die in the flesh.

What don't you get about our spirits not dying?

You have a doctrine of death.

You believe that the spirit can die and that we die and cease to exist, you have a doctrine of death.
 

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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Yep, as I just explained to you elsewhere, true in my doctrine, and true of myself:
But apparently not true for you.

Daqq...

You deny Atonement and you point to other ideas as proof this call is a lie... but you're on record all over the place as denying that the Son of God died for our Sins.

You don't believe in the virgin birth and thus remove blood from the equation. You deny that He was born He!

This is the most blatant display of your error.

- EE
 
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Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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The scriptures say plainly that Jesus died and went to prison/hell and preached there.

You deny the truth.

You also deny that we die in the flesh.

What don't you get about our spirits not dying?

You have a doctrine of death.

You believe that the spirit can die and that we die and cease to exist, you have a doctrine of death.

GT,

You say the Spirit is ONE and ONE alone. Yet you acknowledge that Jesus died. You can't sever that Jesus died in Totallity through the Son, thus proving that the Father is distinguished from the Son.

You will contradict yourself until you accept this matter in faith.

It's all Jesus.

But it's Jesus as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

- EE
 

glorydaz

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I give scripture for all my beliefs.

How do you get not according to knowledge?

Think for yourself...my beliefs flow from the beginning to end.

My beliefs are that we have to obey God, as taught from beginning to end.

I teach that Paul taught what Jesus and the other apostles taught.

I believe in the harmony and truth of scripture.

Think what is right to believe.

You see wages earned. And that's it.

The wages of sin is death, and you think you have to pay those wages with your obedience, repentance, etc.

That's your entire story from beginning to end.
 

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GT,

You say the Spirit is ONE and ONE alone. Yet you acknowledge that Jesus died. You can't sever that Jesus died in Totallity through the Son, thus proving that the Father is distinguished from the Son.

You will contradict yourself until you accept this matter in faith.

It's all Jesus.

But it's Jesus as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

- EE

I don't understand mumbo jumbo. Could you try to reword it in plain English?
 

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You see wages earned. And that's it.

The wages of sin is death, and you think you have to pay those wages with your obedience, repentance, etc.

That's your entire story from beginning to end.

There is nothing wrong, evil, mistaken, shameful, about obey God's words.

How do you ever get that it is wrong to do what God says?
 

glorydaz

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There is nothing wrong, evil, mistaken, shameful, about obey God's words.

How do you ever get that it is wrong to do what God says?

You can't ever respond to a post that catches you flat footed.

I said you see "wages earned" and that's it...from beginning to end. You earn your "salvation" by what you do and you keep your "salvation" by what you do. "Salvation" is the wages you've earned...what you deserve because of what you have done (obeying ad repenting etc).

That is the meaning of having no knowledge of the righteousness of God.
 

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You can't ever respond to a post that catches you flat footed.

I said you see "wages earned" and that's it...from beginning to end. You earn your "salvation" by what you do and you keep your "salvation" by what you do. "Salvation" is the wages you've earned...what you deserve because of what you have done (obeying ad repenting etc).

That is the meaning of having no knowledge of the righteousness of God.

There is never ever a wrong time and way to obey God.
 
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