Hebrews is pertaining to the "Hebrews", not to the Gentiles.
ECT Do those who believe MAD have no problem disregarding what Jesus actually taught ?
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Hebrews is pertaining to the "Hebrews", not to the Gentiles.
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If ignorance is TRULY bliss, then, you must be the happiest being on planet earth.
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I can only think of a few lines in Hebrews that are so specifically about Judaism that they are no use to the Gentiles. Most of it is totally applicable.
btw, who are the Hebrews it is addressed to? Rom 2? Rev 2, 3?
btw, who are the Hebrews it is addressed to? Rom 2? Rev 2, 3?
It must be strange seeing all the Christianity on Earth, from it's beginning all the way to now, not resemble anything of your belief- that a the Christian leaders, traditional dogmas, theologians- everything- be contrary to your notions.
That should raise a red flag to anybody, really. The rejection of baptism and communion alone is bad enough. They should have those little pamphlets you see in church warning against MADism just like the one's warning of Jehovah's Witnesses
lain:Sorry, Broseph, but MADism is not proper Christianity :wave2:
Hebrews thru Revelation :chuckle:
The very belief of the Madist - there's hope for you yet :chuckle:
They don't even believe Paul authored Hebrews
In order for their belief to work, he can't really have anything to do with the Jews. You'll see that they deny Peter being in Rome as well, having anything to do with the Gentiles.
MADism can be remedied with history and oral tradition.
They don't even believe Paul authored Hebrews
In order for their belief to work, he can't really have anything to do with the Jews. You'll see that they deny Peter being in Rome as well, having anything to do with the Gentiles.
MADism can be remedied with history and oral tradition.
Apparantly, you are unaware that even within the Reformed school, there has ALWAYS been a great amount of debate as to whether or not Paul wrote Hebrews.
John Calvin, for example, held that Paul did NOT write it.
In short, in the words of JohnW - "take a seat til you're called" :chuckle:
Calvin was here and there with it. The debate was similar to the Pentateuch and if Moses, who it is traditionally attributed to, wrote it. The answer is probably not literally, but rather by a successor or following scribe. In which case, it makes it unimportant as to who wrote it.
He certainly did not bastardize it from Pauline ideology as you all have :wave2:
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And there are core ideas from it in Colossians. The revelatory aspect of what happened in Colossae (the people who said the Torah's angels spoke to them) needed to hear the 1st chapter of Hebrews rather sharply--all revelation is done and final in Christ.
Ah yes, Augustianism - the reading of one's reasoning into a thing.
They don't even believe Paul authored Hebrews
In order for their belief to work, he can't really have anything to do with the Jews. You'll see that they deny Peter being in Rome as well, having anything to do with the Gentiles.
MADism can be remedied with history and oral tradition.
Hi and there is no bibical proof that Peter ever went to Rom as Peter retired in Jerusalem as recorded in John 21:18
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And another fact , there is no Greek word for PURGATORY not for POPE !!
hISTORY IS NOT THE BIBLE !!
DAN P
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I don't think so ! I follow Jesus THE SAME AS PAUL.
I was being sarcastic. God does change His mind.
I haven't missed anything.
And you need to learn how to make sure someone knows when you're addressing them here. Use the quote function when quoting them, for instance.
The Law didn't annul the promise, nor did the promise annul the Law.
That seems to be something you and your ilk are forgetting.
There is no life in the law. You need to read Paul so you understand what MAD is, because you clearly don't if you think we believe there was ever life in the Law.
But why am I talking? I know you don't actually care about the truth.
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They don't even believe Paul authored Hebrews
Perhaps that's because "Hebrews" was pertaining to, "Hebrews" and not to Gentiles. Have you no logic nor reason? Of course, you don't.
It must be strange seeing all the Christianity on Earth, from it's beginning all the way to now, not resemble anything of your belief- that a the Christian leaders, traditional dogmas, theologians- everything- be contrary to your notions.
That should raise a red flag to anybody, really. The rejection of baptism and communion alone is bad enough. They should have those little pamphlets you see in church warning against MADism just like the one's warning of Jehovah's Witnesses
Sorry, Broseph, but MADism is not proper Christianity :wave2:
Of course, you came to that conclusion through your "Mighty Ignorance." Congratulations for that. I respect a guy who is PROUD of his lack of knowledge and truth. I don't blame you for being boastful. If I were as you, I'd be boastful as well. My compliments Sir.
So, you're trusting in the "Grace Gospel" that Paul preached?
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Nonsense, of course. North of 95% of the declarations of "Hebrews" are found elsewhere; Colossians has some of the same polemic lines against what was going on there in Phrygia--Galatia.
And then there is the question of who are "Hebrews" at the time, in light of Rom 2 and Rev 2-3.
MADism declares that they have the ultimate truth which all of Christianity since the beginning has been ignorant of. And not some vast, hidden thing either, but things reported to be in plain view- just Paul.
How about no- how about, it's made up nonsense perpetuated by nonsensical people- it's America's leading heresy. 70 million Americans too vain to follow tradition and too reprobate to be obedient :wave2: