ECT D'ism needs to decide which trinity it believes in

[john w]

... duh.

Vs.

... Do you try to make threads a coherent conversation when you post--

Vs.

...the greek grammar

"Duh," I dunno....Learn us some "coherent conversation," in "duh" English, would "ya?" Teach us....Please?

 

[john w]

Most of us don't know what you're talking about.

Duh.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Duh.

Once you leave the lies and deception of dispensational narrowcasting, you will begin to see the unfractured beauty that lies in the NHNE event, as the scales fall from your eyes and the veil (not vail, vail is in colorado) is lifted and the gospel event energizes you. Am I getting through to you?

 

[patrick jane]

Once you leave the lies and deception of dispensational narrowcasting, you will begin to see the unfractured beauty that lies in the NHNE event, as the scales fall from your eyes and the veil (not vail, vail is in colorado) is lifted and the gospel event energizes you. Am I getting through to you?

It must be built on a strong foundation, so the building can grow, as a bride adorned for her husband into the NHNE event.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

It must be built on a strong foundation, so the building can grow, as a bride adorned for her husband into the NHNE event.

Exactly, only now we possess the kingdom within our mission to build the church.

 

[Danoh]

Exactly, only now we possess the kingdom within our mission to build the church.

Look at it this way - if the Puritans had won out over King James 's ammillenial Anglican CHURCH of England loyalty; we'd all be saying "Congregation" not "Church."

 

[john w]

Once you leave the lies and deception of dispensational narrowcasting, you will begin to see the unfractured beauty that lies in the NHNE event, as the scales fall from your eyes and the veil (not vail, vail is in colorado) is lifted and the gospel event energizes you. Am I getting through to you?

HUH??(NOTICE CAPS, and double question marks, emphasizing my being right?)

 

[john w]

Exactly, only now we possess the kingdom within our mission to build the church.

Without fracturalizing it, or marginalizing it, or obtuseificating it.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Without fracturalizing it, or marginalizing it, or obtuseificating it.

I have to say that your views on obtuseification are quite acute.

 

[john w]

I have to say that your views on obtuseification are quite acute.

HUH?(in CAPS)

 

[Interplanner]

It must be built on a strong foundation, so the building can grow, as a bride adorned for her husband into the NHNE event.

STP has unwittingly swerved into the fact that the NHNE is the externalization of what is true in Christ now; that is why there are so many parallels between the two. We live in the tension between 'already' and 'not yet.' That is also why, on close inspection, the NHNE is not the same kind of physicality that we have in this world.

The D'ist club needs to examine itself on this matter of forcing the next world to be identical to this one. The physicality of the world before the Genesis Deluge was also quite different from this one, no matter what uniformitarianism says. Likewise, the NHNE when compared to this. As Rom 8 says there is a glory that will be revealed in us that makes today's sufferings void.

8:22 says the present time (Paul's) was preceded by 'groaning as in childbirth' which is now over because of the excellency of what we have in Christ (already), but there is more coming than these firstfruits, and no one hopes in what they already have. Likewise 2 Cor 4-5 on how the Spirit is not everything we are receiving, but is the deposit and guarantee.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

STP has unwittingly swerved into the fact that the NHNE is the externalization of what is true in Christ now; that is why there are so many parallels between the two. We live in the tension between 'already' and 'not yet.' That is also why, on close inspection, the NHNE is not the same kind of physicality that we have in this world.

The D'ist club needs to examine itself on this matter of forcing the next world to be identical to this one. The physicality of the world before the Genesis Deluge was also quite different from this one, no matter what uniformitarianism says. Likewise, the NHNE when compared to this. As Rom 8 says there is a glory that will be revealed in us that makes today's sufferings void.

8:22 says the present time (Paul's) was preceded by 'groaning as in childbirth' which is now over because of the excellency of what we have in Christ (already), but there is more coming than these firstfruits, and no one hopes in what they already have. Likewise 2 Cor 4-5 on how the Spirit is not everything we are receiving, but is the deposit and guarantee.

From which commentary did you learn about "The Genesis Deluge"?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

STP has unwittingly swerved into the fact that the NHNE is the externalization of what is true in Christ now; that is why there are so many parallels between the two. We live in the tension between 'already' and 'not yet.' That is also why, on close inspection, the NHNE is not the same kind of physicality that we have in this world.

It's important to remain unobtuse and to remain acutely aware, non-fractured, as we propel ourselves forward into the now/not yet NHNE event, which is energized by the gospel event, in light of the Great Deluge of false prophets and teachers which seek to flame out the lighted camel and hoist doubt upon the church fortifying them in disarray and constipation of thought.

 

[patrick jane]

fortifying them in disarray and constipation of thought.

:chuckle:

 

[john w]

It's important to remain unobtuse and to remain acutely aware, non-fractured, as we propel ourselves forward into the now/not yet NHNE event, which is energized by the gospel event, in light of the Great Deluge of false prophets and teachers which seek to flame out the lighted camel and hoist doubt upon the church fortifying them in disarray and constipation of thought.

is the externalization of what is true in Christ now; that is why there are so many parallels between the two. We live in the tension between 'already' and 'not yet.

Yes, Mayor, I bet you hadn't thought of the above-get a grasp of the "externalization" principle, coupled with the tension compelsion complex out there. You are "not yet" there, sorta(**) in the "already" state, not completely energized.

Clear?

**Not many can compete with a real "the" English scholar

 

[Interplanner]

:chuckle:

So you have never been taught that the deposit idea of the Spirit is that certain things are seen/tasted in Christ already that will be 'external' in the NHNE? I say 'external' to allow for the different physical features; in that world, God is the light; there no sun. Christ is the temple, there is no granite structure in Judea; no Judea.

Those classic passages of Rom 8 and 2 Cor 4-5 are about living in a tent but possessing a building in the next life; already vs not yet.

D'ism sucks because it damages many of the classic truth of the NT beyond recognition in its search for schematic diagram exactness.

 

[Interplanner]

Through the Spirit we 'taste the powers of the coming age.', Heb 6.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

D'ism sucks because it damages many of the classic truth of the NT beyond recognition in its search for schematic diagram exactness.

Which commentary taught you this "truth"?

 

[Interplanner]

Did Israel know its messiah would suffer by reading Ps 22, Is 53, Dan 9? did it know he would give gifts to men once ascended on high, and those gifts were leaders of the Christian mission, Eph 4? That they are not the restored land of Judea?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Did Israel know its messiah would suffer by reading Ps 22, Is 53, Dan 9? did it know he would give gifts to men once ascended on high, and those gifts were leaders of the Christian mission, Eph 4? That they are not the restored land of Judea?

Turn off Daystar, put down the commentaries, crack open a KJB.