Creation vs. Evolution

[Daedalean's_Sun]

But you haven't explained the difference in the phrases used. That's the difference that was asked for.

They're different phrases, with different meanings. I'd be harder pressed to explain the similarities. One is a kind of selection, and the other is not.

 

[Hedshaker]

I realize that the warm water from the Gulf Stream meeting the cooler air means lots of rain in the UK. But that makes the occasional break in the clouds when the sun comes shining through all that more magnificent. Here in the land of sun and saline (next to the LA area we probably have more cosmetic surgery centers per capita than any other place in the world), one often starts to take it for granted. Every morning I reconnect with my gratitude for being able to live here.

It's actually not that bad really. Us Limey's just like to moan a lot is all. The seasons seem to be shifting though. Now we get April showers in June.

Like nature cares a whit for what we think about the weather.

 

[noguru]

It's actually not that bad really. Us Limey's just like to moan a lot is all. The seasons seem to be shifting though. Now we get April showers in June.

Like nature cares a whit for what we think about the weather.

Yeah, but your accents make the complaining sound almost pleasant.

So you mean Roger Waters was wrong when he wrote this?

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say.

 

[Hedshaker]

Yeah, but your accents make the complaining sound almost pleasant.

So you mean Roger Waters was wrong when he wrote this?

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say.

That's from The Wall, isn't it? Such a shame that him and Gilmore had that bust up, though they seem to be over it now.

For Roger Waters solo I recommend Amused to Death. My favourite is late home tonight. Great lyrics:

Late Home Tonight

 

[Yorzhik]

They're different phrases, with different meanings.

Thus the reason for the question in the first place.

I'd be harder pressed to explain the similarities.

So you've inferred repeatedly.

One is a kind of selection, and the other is not.

Okay. Which one is which?

 

[alwight]

I can see the Isle of Wight today from Sussex. Are you on the NE part I can see? It's sunny and very warm here as well.

I can easily walk to the Needles on the west corner, (3rd base), from here at Totland Bay.

 

[gcthomas]

I can easily walk to the Needles on the west corner, (3rd base), from here at Totland Bay.

I'll wave to you across the Solent next time I'm camping in the New Forest. :wave:

 

[alwight]

I'll wave to you across the Solent next time I'm camping in the New Forest. :wave:

:wave2:

 

[gcthomas]

Time to sign off. I've got Sean of the Dead to watch, a pint of Harvey's Sussex and and some nibbles next to me, now the children are in bed.

G'night.

 

[noguru]

Thus the reason for the question in the first place.


So you've inferred repeatedly.


Okay. Which one is which?

Is this really how you do science?

And you do not see anything problematic with your methodology?

 

[noguru]

That's from The Wall, isn't it?

It is from "Time" on "Dark Side of The Moon".

 

[alwight]

Is this really how you do science?

And you do not see anything problematic with your methodology?

He's trying to turn obfuscation into a science perhaps? lain:

 

[Hedshaker]

It is from "Time" on "Dark Side of The Moon".

Ah, of course, Dark side of the moon...... think I need another Alzheimer's test..... :doh:

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

Okay. Which one is which?

The phrase you proposed, obviously.

 

[noguru]

The phrase you proposed, obviously.

This is the MO of many YECs. Getting a straight answer/model from them is like trying to nail jello to the wall. In another thread we have Carolus Magnus proposing that his YEC single global flood model better explains the evidence we have. And though he will not give any details for his model so it can be compared under the same light of scrutiny, he would rather accuse me of "oversimplifying". And then they wonder why real scientists laugh at their so called "model" of origins. For a YEC when all else fails, accuse your critic of exactly what you are doing. And then we wonder why most serious scientists do not even entertain the YEC model as a viable possibility.

Never argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

 

[Yorzhik]

The phrase you proposed, obviously.

"distributed from usable to unusable places" is a kind of selection... how?

 

[Yorzhik]

Is this really how you do science?

And you do not see anything problematic with your methodology?

No, this is another fruitless attempt to get a straight answer from a Common Descentist.

 

[badp]

Has a YEC ever made a good point against Common Descent? If so, what is it?

You've got it backwards. The burden of proof is on the common descent crowd to provide evidence for it. Got any? Genetics goes against common descent. The fossil record as it stands goes against common descent. What else is there? Evolutionists have fallen back to the old tripe Eugenie Scott used of, "We're making discoveries using evolution" (which is a lie anyway) because there is no decent evidence for common descent.

So, no, I don't think YEC's need to make a point against common descent any more than they need to make a point against the tooth fairy.

 

[MichaelCadry]

Dear Alwight and One Eyed Jack,

I've never seen an Avengers show with Honor Blackman in it, but now at least I know what she looks like. She looks like she could handle things herself too. Now that last one, Tara, just ruined the show. I couldn't see her handling things without Steed coming to her rescue. Too bad. I knew that Honor Blackman preceded Diana Rigg. Damn, every time I think of her, I get so PO'd that she left the show.

Yes, London prob. costs more than New York City. Cat Stevens has a mansion on Curzon street. I was going to visit him until I found out how expensive it was. That was before I knew he was becoming Muslim. Too bad I didn't get to him sooner. Life's a *****, sometimes. I can't tell you his address on Curzon St., because I'm not allowed to. I asked God for the address and He told me. I was so exasperated with not being able to get through to him that I finally asked God, why don't you just give me his address, and He spoke it to me, and I put it on the envelope, and lo and behold, he wrote me back a letter, using calligraphy. I still have the letter and letters from his secretary. Basically he said he was happy being Muslim than Christian. Too bad for him.

Well, it's been quite fun talking with you all. You too, of course, noguru and Hedshaker!! God Bless Your Hearts!!

Michael

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

"distributed from usable to unusable places" is a kind of selection... how?

Because usable is being discerned from unsuable, and selected accordingly. Heat doesn't do that.