Cops beat up and shoot Christian street witnesses

Nazaroo

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a female Walmart employee tried to use a women's restroom and was prevented from doing so, getting pushed out of the way.

One person's version of story.

When someone invades your personal space, who pushed who is difficult to determine.

I am reasonably guessing that the person blocking the door wasn't moving,
while the person trying to enter WAS moving.

Anyway, they had moved away from the restroom to the parking lot,
so there was no 'emergency' requiring gunfire.

It would have been advisable for the family to leave the property entirely,
but I strongly suspect that two security guys were preventing them from doing so.

In any case, had they left, a reasonable thing to do,
the police would only have one side of the story, the Walmart mall-cops' version.
The result would have been a police chase involving vehicles,
in which (as we've seen recently) police feel authorized to shoot people
for minor motor vehicle violations.

In a court, leaving the scene would have played out against the family.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

The fact that the family stayed to talk to police, and tell their side,
while leaving the building and staying together by their vehicle,
speaks volumes about their cooperative and law-abiding nature.

They had the full and reasonable expectation that when the police arrived,
they would be interviewed and tell their side of the story.

Instead, the hot-headed police charged in on the family,
causing a defensive reaction that was violently overpowered
by armed, trained (and I use that term loosely) combatants
with firearms and batons.

Five minutes of discussion would have defused the situation,
which was in essence a family domestic disturbance at a restroom.

Citizens have a (now mistaken) expectation that when police arrive,
they will be treated like fellow citizens, shown respect, and
be questioned so that their side of any fracas can be heard.

They don't expect cops to charge in like little dictators,
commanding people to be separated, handcuffed, and thrown to the ground.

The problem here is one of perception:
Naive law-abiding citizens are expecting cops to behave like peace officers,
and show fairness and neutrality in settling minor disputes among
basically harmless and unarmed groups in situations where emotions have escalated.

But police in the USA and elsewhere have taken on new and disturbing tactics,
that wouldn't have even been conceived in 1960.

Clearly the age of the local peace officer separating disputing parties
and defusing emotional confrontations is long gone.

In its place is a Soviet/Nazi style of policing, where
cops rush in like army soldiers, with a full-scale assault,
ready to use lethal force to assert their authority,
even in the most minor and unimportant misdemeanor-altercations.

Every citizen is apparently now expected to immediately lay on the ground face down,
let their hands be cuffed behind their back while a half-dozen paramilitary goons
kick and bruise them, while shouting "stop resisting".

Should a citizen happen to die from the shock of beating, tasering or choke-outs,
well, they shouldn't have been outside of their house on 'private property' in public.
 

Nazaroo

New member
Naz anti-police BALONEY.


I will support 100% any and every police person who
upholds the Laws of God as found in the Bible.

But I'm having difficulty finding where in Leviticus
it prescribes the death penalty for washroom blocking.

Can you help me find the scripture? Thanks.
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
I think its for shooting a police officer with his own weapon...

I guess you wouldn't have an issue with it if the perp was black.


I will support 100% any and every police person who
upholds the Laws of God as found in the Bible.

But I'm having difficulty finding where in Leviticus
it prescribes the death penalty for washroom blocking.

Can you help me find the scripture? Thanks.
 

The Barbarian

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Banned
There are police who act like thugs. These police don't seem to be among them. Even if a cop is abusive, the worst thing you can do is resort to violence. They're way better at it than you are, and in most cases they are better armed. And any legal protections you have against them are compromised if you fight them.
 

TrakeM

New member
The United States isn't a theocracy. That has positives and negatives for christians. On the one hand you don't get to enforce your religion on others nor are you guaranteed that the law will in any way line up with your religious beliefs. In fact the law may prevent you from doing something your religion says to do or require you to do something your religion says not to do. On the other hand, you are guaranteed that you will not have to believe in someone else's religion or abide by the religious edicts of someone else's religion. If you would prefer to live in a theocracy, might I suggest Uganda. It's 95% christian and they murder gay people there all the time. Of course it's also a poverty stricken hell hole but that comes with being a theocracy.
 

The Barbarian

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Naz is right that the police only got one side of the story. But if they are called to investigate a claim of a crime, they are entirely justified in stopping the accused person and determining what happened.

And such a person, being under articulable suspicion of having committed a crime, can be compelled to identify themselves and cooperate with the officer. Lacking such suspicion, officers cannot detain a person or compel them to present identification, in most states. If detained while operating a motor vehicle, they do have to present a valid driver's license, of course.

The video seems to make it clear that violence was initiated by one of the men, who attempted to interfere with questioning by physically pushing between an officer and a suspect. That's a crime in every state I know about.

I don't see the police as the bad guys here. If the suspects had calmly discussed the issue with the officers, they would have gotten both sides of the story. Yes, the tactic of questioning people individually is designed to trip up anyone lying about it. But that's not an unreasonable thing for police to do.
 
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