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The Barbarian

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Deniers find the real world baffling and complex. The fact that warming overrides, but does not replace, natural fluctuations seems to be an incomprehensible notion for them.
 

Stripe

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Absolutely! Only numbskulls feign certainty in the face of the unavoidable uncertainties involved in understanding complex systems. (I'll leave all that nonsense to you.)

If you can't do predictions, you're not doing science. :wave2:
 

The Barbarian

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gc writes:
I gave a prediction, and the range of uncertainty.

Stipe writes:
Which amounted to: It might get warmer sometime.

Hard to say whether ignorance that profound is hilarious or depressing. Stipe seems to really believe what he wrote there.

BTW, checking on the GISS data, unless this winter is a lot colder than usual, this year is on track to be in the top 3 hottest years ever, all them in the current decade.
 

eameece

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The data is clear. Climate change is real and is caused by human use of fossil fuels. Resistance to change only helps the wealthy CEOs of fossil fuels companies and their investors. Things will get worse the longer the deniers are able to block progress. It is too late to avoid disasters, but we can have fewer of them if we cat now. Worse storms, droughts, floods, famines, sinking nations, dying species, dying oceans, dirty air and water; these are more are the consequences of folks like Stripe who wantonly deny the obvious facts in order to protect their right-wing ideology or their profits. Hundreds of thousands marched in New York and millions around the world the last two days. This is an historic opportunity to increase momentum for change.
 

The Barbarian

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In United States, the gerrymandered Congress will be able to prevent any significant action. However, there are some libertarians who are working for technological innovations that will slow the growth of carbon emissions.

Maybe too little, too late. But it's a doable thing.

If this sounds pessimistic, it is.
 

Frank Ernest

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Barbarian chuckles:
I asked for one cite from the literature, saying the Arctic Ocean was going to be ice-free by 2014, but (as expected) tetelestai couldn't find one. For the same reason he's not going to find a unicorn in his closet.

(tetelestai runs away)

(Frank can't find one, either, but he found a news program that quoted a scientist as saying it could happen)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm

Yep. Thanks for making my point for me.
:darwinsm: :mock:barbie
 

The Barbarian

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(Frank turns to ridicule when he's embarrassed himself)

There's a good reason there isn't one in the literature Frank. If you think about it, you might even be able to figure out why.
 

tetelestai

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Hundreds of thousands marched in New York

First off, it was tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands. But hey, you guys really like to distort numbers.

Secondly, the march was filled with anti-capitalism and communist propaganda.

Third, a good amount of the marchers were smoking pot as they marched.

to protect their right-wing ideology or their profits

No, it's to protect freedom.

Progressive Liberals such as yourself are too stupid to see that the global warming hoax is simply just a way for the Communists/Marxists/Socialists to take away the freedom of US citizens.

Let's look at what was on display at the Climate Change March (which was really an anti-capitalism march)

The following sign says "Capitalism is the disease, Socialism is the cure"

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The following tells us that Capitalism is the disease, and to fight for a Socialist future:

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The following shows the NY Communist Party marching in the Climate Change march:

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The following sign from the Climate March tells us we need communism:

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So, as we see above, it's not really about a global warming hoax, it's about Communism/Socialism/Marxism.
 

tetelestai

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More anti-capitalism and pro- Communism/Socialism/Marxism on display at the People's Climate March in NYC this past Sunday:


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tetelestai

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Besides all the anti-capitalism, pro-Communism/Socialism/Marxism people at the People's Climate March, there were also the typical Liberal hypocrites.

Leonardo DiCaprio participated in the march.

It's funny how DiCaprio was marching for reduced carbon, when the same DiCaprio chartered a private jet from Australia to Las Vegas on New Years Eve just so he and his buddies could experience two New Year's Eve's on the same day.

IOW, DiCaprio felt there was nothing wrong with emitting pollution and carbon into the atmosphere from jet fuel for 13 HOURS so he could attend two parties, but DiCaprio marches in a parade denouncing carbon emissions.

The following pic from the People's Climate March shows DiCaprio holding a sign that says "100% for the planet" (except when he wants to go to two parties on the same day)

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The Barbarian

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And as usual, when deniers are out of excuses, they look for bad people who don't deny the fact of warming.

As if that could hold reality at bay.
 

Jose Fly

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So basically...."the people at this march are anti-capitalists, therefore average global temperatures are not on an increasing trend".

Well played.
 

tetelestai

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So basically...."the people at this march are anti-capitalists, therefore average global temperatures are not on an increasing trend".

Well played.

Global warming isn't happening. It's a hoax.

Communists/Socialists/Marxists are using the hoax as a means to overthrow capitalism.
 

tetelestai

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And as usual, when deniers are out of excuses, they look for bad people who don't deny the fact of warming.

This isn't surprising coming from you, you follow a Communist Pope.

The Catholic Church not only follows a Communist Pope, the Catholic Church is embedded with Unions, which are nothing more than Socialist/Communist organizations.
 

chrysostom

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This isn't surprising coming from you, you follow a Communist Pope.

The Catholic Church not only follows a Communist Pope, the Catholic Church is embedded with Unions, which are nothing more than Socialist/Communist organizations.

whoa!
the barbarian is not the catholic church
we just tolerate him
 
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