glorydaz
Well-known member
Good post. :thumb:
cheap salvation
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Good post. :thumb:
brewmama
New member
It's interesting how you guys transpose the meaning of cheap grace around to make it mean the opposite of what it means...Is it intentional, and therefore deceitful? Or just out of ignorance? No one is saying that what Christ did was cheap, but that you give nothing in return. You are cheap.
Do you despise Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who coined the phrase? According to Bonhoeffer, cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline. Communion without confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ. "Our humanitarian sentiment made us give that which was holy to the scornful and unbelieving... But the call to follow Jesus in the narrow way was hardly ever heard."
Cheap grace, Bonhoeffer says, is to hear the gospel preached as follows: "Of course you have sinned, but now everything is forgiven, so you can stay as you are and enjoy the consolations of forgiveness." (Hmm, sounds familiar). The main defect of such a proclamation is that it contains no demand for discipleship. In contrast to cheap grace,"costly grace confronts us as a gracious call to follow Jesus, it comes as a word of forgiveness to the broken spirit and the contrite heart. It is costly because it compels a man to submit to the yoke of Christ and follow him; it is grace because Jesus says: "My yoke is easy and my burden is light." "
tough job that, looking back
that is nonsense
how do you tell the good guys from the bad guys?
works of the flesh
you don't get to judge yourself
but
you do get to show
that
you are in control of your flesh
works of the flesh
you don't get to judge yourself
but
you do get to show
that
you are in control of your flesh
Of course, that wouldn't include you, would it?
Well, the good guys are those who have heard the "True Gospel"
and placed their faith in Christ as their Savior. The bad guys trust
in themselves and their religion. (Church)
She" right you're wrong.
Thank you Miss Know-it-all.
Very well, then stop your wicked ways
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lifeisgood
New member
They are right, YOUR works CANNOT save you.
Jesus' WORK CAN.
You are not doing the works He wants you to do.
You are working to get saved.
He already did all the work that needed to be done for you to be saved.
Let Him save you and then obey the works He has prepared specifically for meshak to do.
why do you continually disregard Jesus' word?
Jesus says to obey Him.
You ought to prays God for faithful ones faithfulness to Jesus, instead of putting them down by saying their works cannot save them..
BTW, don't put the words into my mouth. I did not say my works can save me. It is not about me, it is about His Word.
lifeisgood
New member
You CANNOT obey Him if you are NOT His.
And you CAN only be His when you OBEY Him by coming to Him and letting Him save you.
HIS FINISHED WORK on the Cross of Calvary is the ONLY work that is accepted.
You, meshak, have said so many times how much you work because others preach 'cheap' salvation. Oh, yeah, it is in this thread.
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So you think you have authority to judge who are His or not.
just amazing.
suit yourself with your self-righteous judgment.
lifeisgood
New member
No, I just said that YOU cannot OBEY Him if you are NOT His.
Ben Masada
New member
If indeed Jesus was sent to the whole world with the kingdom of salvation, how do you explain that he forbade his disciples to take the gospel of salvation to the Gentiles, especially the Samaritans? Kind of weird, don't you think so? That's in Mat. 10:5,6.
Thanks but I will not worry about it.
I have faith in Him that He approves of my evangelism spirit. If He does not I will not have passion for evangelism.
Do you know Jesus' last commission to His disciples?
You don't seem to esteem that commission much.
You cannot evangelize by doing nothing.