are you a feminist?

[ok doser]

:darwinsm:

 

[Town Heretic]

so why do you keep coming back to my threads to let me know?

It's a fair question. :think:

Probably has to do with this sort of thing, from a few posts ago:

as town would say
I have already posted this
but
unlike town
I am happy to repeat it

I am an old, white, catholic, conservative, male who votes republican as every christian should because the democratic party supports abortion

You know, you talking about me and whatnot. lain:

 

[annabenedetti]

Time to remind chrys that I'm keeping his thread alive.

From A Strange Stirring: The Feminine Mystique and American Women at the Dawn of the 1960s by Stephanie Coontz:

"In 1972, the New York Times carried a story about a woman who could not rent an apartment until her husband, a patient in a mental hospital, signed the lease. In many states, a woman was obliged to take her husband's surname. In some she could not return to her maiden name after divorce unless, under the fault-based divorce system, she had proven that he was "at fault." A woman who did not change the name on her driver's license or voter registration upon marriage could have it revoked until she did.... At least five staes required women to receive court approval before opening a business in their own name. In Florida, a married woman who wished to operate a business independently of her husband had to present a petition that attested to "her character, habits, education and mental capacity for business" and explain why her "disability" to conduct a business should be removed... ... if a single woman with her own credit card got married, they insisted that her husband become the legal account holder... In issuing a mortgage or a loan, a wife's income was taken into consideration only if she was at least forty years old or could present proof that she had been sterilized. Until 1967, if a married female veteran applied for a Veterans Administration loan, her own income was not considered in determining the couple's credit risk... One seemingly glamorous job for women in the early 1960s was that of stewardess, but many airline companies required women to quit work upon marriage, and all insisted that they could not work after having a child. Women were expected to resign as soon as they became pregnant. When one airline discovered that a stewardess had kept her child a secret for three years while she continued working,they offered her the choice of resigning or putting her child in an orphanage... The advertisements in the Sunday New York Times of April 7, 1963... "Secretary (attrac) ... good typ & steno; "Pretty-looking, cheerful gal for Mad Ave agcy"; Exec Secy... Attractive please!" A particularly demanding employer stipulated "you must be really beautiful." The book goes on to describe the social stigma faced by a woman who bore a child out of wedlock: "If a woman did keep a child [not being pressured to go away to 'visit relatives' and put the baby up for adoption], she and her child faced legal as well as social discrimination. Many companies refused to hire unwed mothers. Children born out of wedlock had the word "illegitimate" stamped on their birth certificates and school records... There was seldom justice for women who were raped. Most state penal codes permitted defense lawyers to impeach a woman's testimony by introducing evidence of previous consensual sex or claiming she had "invited" the rape by wearing "revealing clothes" or "tight" dresses. Many judges required corroboration that was almost impossible to achieve, such as having an eyewitness testify to the rape. In North Caroline, an older man could not be convicted of the statutory rape of a young girl if he could convince a judge or jury she had not been a virgin. The law did not recognize that a married woman could be raped by her husband. Once a woman said "I do," she was assumed to have said "I will" for the rest of her married life. The courts held that the marriage vows implied consent to intercourse. Not until 1975 did the first state -South Dakota - make spousal rape a crime. North Caroline did not do so until 1993. Many state also did not take domestic violence seriously, often requiring police officers to see a man assault his wife before they could make an arrest. In some places, the police used the "stitch rule," arresting an abusing husband only if the wife's injuries required more than a certain number of sutures. Until 1981, Pennsylvania still had a law against a husband beating his wife after 10 PM on Sunday, implying that the rest of the time she was fair game.

 

[bybee]

There is a certain mentality in this forum which considers that "The Good Old Days"!

 

[Yorzhik]

From A Strange Stirring: The Feminine Mystique and American Women at the Dawn of the 1960s by Stephanie Coontz:

"In 1972, the New York Times carried a story about a woman who could not rent an apartment until her husband, a patient in a mental hospital, signed the lease. In many states, a woman was obliged to take her husband's surname. In some she could not return to her maiden name after divorce unless, under the fault-based divorce system, she had proven that he was "at fault." A woman who did not change the name on her driver's license or voter registration upon marriage could have it revoked until she did.... At least five staes required women to receive court approval before opening a business in their own name. In Florida, a married woman who wished to operate a business independently of her husband had to present a petition that attested to "her character, habits, education and mental capacity for business" and explain why her "disability" to conduct a business should be removed... ... if a single woman with her own credit card got married, they insisted that her husband become the legal account holder... In issuing a mortgage or a loan, a wife's income was taken into consideration only if she was at least forty years old or could present proof that she had been sterilized. Until 1967, if a married female veteran applied for a Veterans Administration loan, her own income was not considered in determining the couple's credit risk... One seemingly glamorous job for women in the early 1960s was that of stewardess, but many airline companies required women to quit work upon marriage, and all insisted that they could not work after having a child. Women were expected to resign as soon as they became pregnant. When one airline discovered that a stewardess had kept her child a secret for three years while she continued working,they offered her the choice of resigning or putting her child in an orphanage... The advertisements in the Sunday New York Times of April 7, 1963... "Secretary (attrac) ... good typ & steno; "Pretty-looking, cheerful gal for Mad Ave agcy"; Exec Secy... Attractive please!" A particularly demanding employer stipulated "you must be really beautiful." The book goes on to describe the social stigma faced by a woman who bore a child out of wedlock: "If a woman did keep a child [not being pressured to go away to 'visit relatives' and put the baby up for adoption], she and her child faced legal as well as social discrimination. Many companies refused to hire unwed mothers. Children born out of wedlock had the word "illegitimate" stamped on their birth certificates and school records... There was seldom justice for women who were raped. Most state penal codes permitted defense lawyers to impeach a woman's testimony by introducing evidence of previous consensual sex or claiming she had "invited" the rape by wearing "revealing clothes" or "tight" dresses. Many judges required corroboration that was almost impossible to achieve, such as having an eyewitness testify to the rape. In North Caroline, an older man could not be convicted of the statutory rape of a young girl if he could convince a judge or jury she had not been a virgin. The law did not recognize that a married woman could be raped by her husband. Once a woman said "I do," she was assumed to have said "I will" for the rest of her married life. The courts held that the marriage vows implied consent to intercourse. Not until 1975 did the first state -South Dakota - make spousal rape a crime. North Caroline did not do so until 1993. Many state also did not take domestic violence seriously, often requiring police officers to see a man assault his wife before they could make an arrest. In some places, the police used the "stitch rule," arresting an abusing husband only if the wife's injuries required more than a certain number of sutures. Until 1981, Pennsylvania still had a law against a husband beating his wife after 10 PM on Sunday, implying that the rest of the time she was fair game.

As expected from a female, because the dialectic is hard (like math), anecdotes mean so much to her that they serve as justification for any tyranny she wishes.

Systemically, women were loved and protected more during those days than they are now. But now we have a ruthlessly unjust family court that removes children from their fathers at about an 80% rate, that will send a man to jail with no evidence except a single female's word, and will require a man to remain married to a woman even after a divorce but require nothing from the woman.

Good job feminists! Now men are free to be almost as evil as women became after the changes to society that came from acting on the above anecdotes. Since females more often don't think things through, they didn't realize that it's women that need men, but men merely want women.

 

[annabenedetti]

As expected from a female, because the dialectic is hard (like math), anecdotes mean so much to her that they serve as justification for any tyranny she wishes.

Systemically, women were loved and protected more during those days than they are now. But now we have a ruthlessly unjust family court that removes children from their fathers at about an 80% rate, that will send a man to jail with no evidence except a single female's word, and will require a man to remain married to a woman even after a divorce but require nothing from the woman.

Good job feminists! Now men are free to be almost as evil as women became after the changes to society that came from acting on the above anecdotes. Since females more often don't think things through, they didn't realize that it's women that need men, but men merely want women.

:chuckle: It must have been difficult for you to type all that with your knuckles.

 

[Crucible]

What is it with this subject being so prevalent on here..

There is a certain mentality in this forum which considers that "The Good Old Days"!

Well, I read a post recently of some guy who says that if he's sexist, then so be it.. that he wasn't sexist until modern feminism started degrading men and giving him every reason to toss out whatever compassion he would have- and that it makes him wish, in his anger, that women would just go back to their former status.

A feminist would just call this man an evil misogynist, but as a man, I oddly sympathize with him at least on a certain level.
Men have it rougher than women, and berated by women, and the only thing happening is a mocking of that reality and a railroading perpetuation of whatever serves women.

 

[annabenedetti]

What is it with this subject being so prevalent on here..

Well, I read a post recently of some guy who says that if he's sexist, then so be it.. that he wasn't sexist until modern feminism started degrading men and giving him every reason to toss out whatever compassion he would have- and that it makes him wish, in his anger, that women would just go back to their former status.

A feminist would just call this man an evil misogynist, but as a man, I oddly sympathize with him at least on a certain level.
Men have it rougher than women, and berated by women, and the only thing happening is a mocking of that reality and a railroading perpetuation of whatever serves women.

To solve your problem, I recommend you stay far, far away from women. Then everyone will be happy. :thumb:

 

[Crucible]

To solve your problem, I recommend you stay far, far away from women. Then everyone will be happy. :thumb:

Ignoring women is misogyny. Don't believe me? Youtube it.

There is no winning with feminism.

 

[Rusha]

Ignoring women is misogyny. Don't believe me? Youtube it.

There is no winning with feminism.

Right ... those feminists have made you sign up under how many different ID's now, Sum?

I bet it was also their fault when you got drunk and changed your religious affiliation to Muslim too, right? Homeskillet.

 

[Crucible]

Right ... those feminists have made you sign up under how many different ID's now, Sum?

I bet it was also their fault when you got drunk and changed your religious affiliation to Muslim too, right? Homeskillet.

You may as well stop with that continued nonsense, it just makes you look desperate. Whoever you are talking about I suppose got under your skin to a point where anyone who doesn't agree with you is this mythical poster.

Or
You are just trying to avoid what I say, which by the way is what you have done in some form or another since my first post on these subjects.

 

[patrick jane]

You may as well stop with that continued nonsense, it just makes you look desperate. Whoever you are talking about I suppose got under your skin to a point where anyone who doesn't agree with you is this mythical poster.

Or
You are just trying to avoid what I say, which by the way is what you have done in some form or another since my first post on these subjects.

Nope, we can sniff out socks cuz they smell like they've been here

 

[Crucible]

Nope, we can sniff out socks cuz they smell like they've been here

Now I'm starting to think this is just a way to shun out anyone who gives you a run for your bias.

Which wouldn't be surprising, judging by what I've seen on here. Of all subjects, this is the one that you all are so hellbent on. I find that very odd, being that the Bible is about as feminist as China.

 

[Rusha]

Nope, we can sniff out socks cuz they smell like they've been here

:chuckle:

 

[glorydaz]

:chuckle: It must have been difficult for you to type all that with your knuckles.

You gals are an embarrassment to this forum. :nono:

 

[brewmama]

As expected from a female, because the dialectic is hard (like math), anecdotes mean so much to her that they serve as justification for any tyranny she wishes.

Systemically, women were loved and protected more during those days than they are now. But now we have a ruthlessly unjust family court that removes children from their fathers at about an 80% rate, that will send a man to jail with no evidence except a single female's word, and will require a man to remain married to a woman even after a divorce but require nothing from the woman.

Good job feminists! Now men are free to be almost as evil as women became after the changes to society that came from acting on the above anecdotes. Since females more often don't think things through, they didn't realize that it's women that need men, but men merely want women.

Only too true. Egalitarianism and feminism appear to be demonically based, judging on the damage they do to families, society, women, and the hierarchical structure God intended.

 

[truthjourney]

This makes me think of my husband and how he was quick to tell *some* men not to use bad language around me. He would say, "She's a lady". :cloud9:

 

[bybee]

This makes me think of my husband and how he was quick to tell *some* men not to use bad language around me. He would say, "She's a lady". :cloud9:

A gentleman in one's life is a blessing!

 

[Breathe]

A gentleman in one's life is a blessing!

Indeed. I enjoy being treated like a lady!

 

[bybee]

Indeed. I enjoy being treated like a lady!

Likewise and a real pleasure for me is to see my son and his wife as they interact. He is a gentleman and she is a lady!