are you a feminist?

[Huckleberry]

The gender pay gap still exists. I believe in meritocracy. Encourage people to do a good job by pay raises and other incentives. The best person for the job includes evaluating how they get along with co-workers and management. And that cannot be governed by fiat!

Well, yes the pay gap exists but it's not the result of discrimination, it's the result of career and education choices men and women make. There's no inequality there. Quite the opposite, it's the result of men and women both having the freedom to choose what types of careers to pursue and how. The only way to "fix" this would be to force women to make the same choices men make.

"Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous
conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a
multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify
corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be
almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers. "

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf

 

[chrysostom]

Do they need bumper sticker, philosophical appeals relating to an otherwise unestablished masculine validation?

Or is that just a bonus? lain:

56% of the women voted for obama
they didn't even need your vote

 

[Rusha]

56% of the women voted for obama
they didn't even need your vote

:think: And what of those 44% ...

 

[Rusha]

real men vote republican

So ... when you voted for a democrat, you were not a *real* man?

 

[Yorzhik]

56% of the women voted for obama
they didn't even need your vote

And broken down further, single divorced non-black women vote democrat north of 70% every time. Single never married non-black women vote 50%-70% democrat depending on various factors. Non-black woman married rural and suburban vote very nearly the same as their husbands. Black women, like all blacks, choose to live on the democrat plantation which is sad because they could do better off of it.

 

[Town Heretic]

56% of the women voted for obama
they didn't even need your vote

See, there you go with that slick, misleading habit of yours again.

Chrys loves that I voted for the President in the first go around.

He hates/can't use my lack of support in the second, so he fudges it by blending the more recent and increasing female support for the President with my past support, which was mostly owed to a) the Republican ticket and b) my belief that in hard economic times the President's chief role is as as a public cheerleader, a source of optimism and consumer confidence...a role he was better suited to than the opposition.

The republicans need to consider why, while making small gains among men they continued to lose ground among women.

 

[patrick jane]

See, there you go with that slick, misleading habit of yours again.

Chrys loves that I voted for the President in the first go around.

He hates/can't use my lack of support in the second, so he fudges it by blending the more recent and increasing female support for the President with my past support, which was mostly owed to a) the Republican ticket and b) my belief that in hard economic times the President's chief role is as as a public cheerleader, a source of optimism and consumer confidence...a role he was better suited to than the opposition.

The republicans need to consider why, while making small gains among men they continued to lose ground among women.

exactly. the ticket -

 

[Ktoyou]

are you a feminist?

You do not know what a feminist is. I would teach you, if you wanted to learn. and I felt up to it.

 

[chrysostom]

You do not know what a feminist is. I would teach you, if you wanted to learn. and I felt up to it.

another reluctant feminist
who
can't admit to being one
and
it is my fault because I don't know what a feminist is

 

[Huckleberry]

another reluctant feminist
who
can't admit to being one
and
it is my fault because I don't know what a feminist is

You sound exactly like aCW. Just sayin'.

 

[chrysostom]

You sound exactly like aCW. Just sayin'.

just sayin?

you sound like an idiot

just sayin

 

[Town Heretic]

another reluctant feminist... I don't know what a feminist is

 

[Ktoyou]

another reluctant feminist
who
can't admit to being one
and
it is my fault because I don't know what a feminist is

Look here wacko, would I be a first wave feminist? What about a second wave feminist. Now you answer that one!

 

[chrysostom]

Look here wacko, would I be a first wave feminist? What about a second wave feminist. Now you answer that one!

another reluctant feminist

another non answer

 

[Rusha]

it is my fault because I don't know what a feminist is

Exactly right ... you *don't know* what a feminist is and still yet, you continue to flap your gums and pretend you do.

 

[ok doser]

... I voted for (Obama)...

yes, you did

 

[ok doser]

anna danced away from this one:

can you separate feminism from "reproductive rights"?

any of you other "feminists" care to take a crack at it?

 

[Town Heretic]

yes, you did

Equally true statement: I voted against Obama.

But then, you'd have to be interested in the truth instead of using a shard of it as an instrument.

 

[glorydaz]

another reluctant feminist
who
can't admit to being one
and
it is my fault because I don't know what a feminist is

Let's face it. A feminist is whatever a man says she is. Case closed.

 

[Huckleberry]

Let's face it. A feminist is whatever a man says she is. Case closed.

To be fair, can you find a definition of feminism that actually matches what modern feminists say and do?