are you a feminist?

Town Heretic

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Hall of Fame
do you know what honest is?
Yes. It's what prompted me to give you the answer on my first vote when you asked it even though I knew how you'd use it.

It's what you and your friend don't exhibit when you tell half the truth to give a misleading impression.

Thanks for asking.
 
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annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
Yes. It's what prompted me to give you the answer on my first vote when you asked it even though I knew how you'd use it.

It's what you and your friend don't exhibit when you tell half the truth to give a misleading impression.

Thanks for asking.

Someone in real life today who's about as far to the right as you can get told me she'd left a different conservative forum because the behavior of the conservatives was worse than the liberals they were castigating, and she'd had enough. I never thought she'd say something like that, but I know what she means.

You've explained your voting history before. They're just trolling you, nothing more. Not worth your time to tell them again.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
there there town
the behavior of those conservatives is just awful
makes you want to vote democratic
even though they support abortion
at least they have reasonable behavior
if
you can ignore baby parts
 

bybee

New member
Someone in real life today who's about as far to the right as you can get told me she'd left a different conservative forum because the behavior of the conservatives was worse than the liberals they were castigating, and she'd had enough. I never thought she'd say something like that, but I know what she means.

You've explained your voting history before. They're just trolling you, nothing more. Not worth your time to tell them again.

It seems that some of the dweebs who post here cannot function without insult and misrepresentation.
 

Town Heretic

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Hall of Fame
there there town
He finally said, running from the answer given and its uncomfortable point:
do you know what honest is?
Yes. It's what prompted me to give you the answer on my first vote when you asked it even though I knew how you'd use it.

It's what you and your friend don't exhibit when you tell half the truth to give a misleading impression.

Thanks for asking.

the behavior of those conservatives is just awful
Is that how you approach what the conservative appointed Roe Court did, as a relative trifle in route to your blaming the party who voices support for that decision but didn't actually open the infanticide flood gates?

makes you want to vote democratic
No, but it should be a cautionary tale for anyone inclined to imagine pulling a party lever is a sure fire solution.
 

chrysostom

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He finally said, running from the answer given and its uncomfortable point:



Is that how you approach what the conservative appointed Roe Court did, as a relative trifle in route to your blaming the party who voices support for that decision but didn't actually open the infanticide flood gates?


No, but it should be a cautionary tale for anyone inclined to imagine pulling a party lever is a sure fire solution.

my position is really simple
I vote republican because the democratic party supports abortion
did you understand that part?
your position is not simple
and
I may have trouble presenting it
but
you have to go back over forty years when republican judges declared abortion legal
and
you being a lawyer understand that it is now the law of the land
and
there is nothing you can do about it
but
what you don't seem to understand is why democrats and their judges still think partial birth abortion should be legal
that abortion after 20 weeks should be legal
that a baby born alive in an abortion procedure can be killed
and
that their parts can be sold
even though they keep it alive long enough to harvest the brain
I apologize in advance
if
I have misrepresented your position
 

Town Heretic

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Hall of Fame
my position is really simple
I'll take more complicated but doable over simple and impossible any day of the week.

I vote republican because the democratic party supports abortion did you understand that part?
No, that's not your position. That's a bumper sticker. Your position is that you believe the way to undo what your party did is to put them in power again and to appoint the right sort of justices, who will find a way to reverse Roe.

And here's where that already monumentally uphill notion starts coming off the rails: you believe the only way to accomplish that is to ensure solidly right wing justices, which in turn means you must destroy the democratic party. So your solution is to address abortion by way of that aim.

My response is that you might as well set abortion in eternal stone then, because that's not going to happen. What could happen is a change on the position. The way I've always put it is this: it's easier to change someone's mind on an issue than on a host of issues and ideological leaning/political premise.

your position is not simple
It's not complicated. Let's see how you do anyway.

you have to go back over forty years when republican judges declared abortion legal
To understand that voting a party ticket isn't necessarily an answer and that a conservative appointed Court gave us Roe? Okay. That's true.

and you being a lawyer understand that it is now the law of the land and there is nothing you can do about it
I've actually never said that, have said something contrary to that, repeatedly, and you know it. I've told you precisely how Roe will and can be defeated. We'll change enough minds on the issue to push for and secure a Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing the unborn protected status and investing them with right.

but what you don't seem to understand is why democrats and their judges still think partial birth abortion should be legal
Because it isn't entirely true. There's even a pro-life wing within the democrats. You know that. And there are pro-choice republicans. And you know that too. The trick is to move the pro-life elements together and to continue to push the public sentiment and understanding toward reversing Roe.

The way to do that ISN'T by declaring war on many people who could be won to the cause because you hold their other notions in contempt, like unions.
 

intojoy

BANNED
Banned
are you a feminist?

no one here wants to say they are a feminist
but
they don't want to say they are not a feminist

bybee and spitfire are not timid at all
but
both were very reluctant to say whether or not they were a feminist
and
it took repeated requests to get them to say they weren't
so
what is the deal here?
why is this such a difficult label?
is there some kind of intimidation going on?

Only at night
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
He made an error in judgment. Have you ever made an error in judgment? I have.

would you vote for a candidate who had voted to allow doctors to murder live-born children because he wanted to protect a woman's right to murder unborn children?

would you vote for that guy?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
why?


Spoiler
my answer: because i would know all i needed to about his character and morals
 
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