Celebrate Recovery new app :jump: Eph 5:18AA is not the only program or philosophy for alcoholism...
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Celebrate Recovery new app :jump: Eph 5:18AA is not the only program or philosophy for alcoholism...
Teen Challenge treats addiction with Jesus ChristAA is not the only program or philosophy for alcoholism. It is the oldest- in fact, it was the first program ever created for people dealing with a substance problem.
But by the same point, not everyone agrees with the 'sobriety for life' way for alcoholics. It's a philosophy fundamentally built on fear and doesn't acknowledge Christ as actually removing a disease from one's mind- it rather holds to one always being under a disease even if they never drink again.
Teen Challenge treats addiction with Jesus Christ
Hello MrDeets;I was just thinking about you, has your drunk app clocked up the 200?
I Hope you are keeping well.
Eric
Good job Deets, I can't do it325 and counting!! Thankya sir!!
Do you ever have drinking dreams? Dreams where you drink or try to drink but can't?325 and counting!! Thankya sir!!
My name is Josh, and I'm an alcoholic. I am working on day 39 of my sobriety, and I don't know much, but I know I won't drink today.
That being said, I searched for a similar thread to no avail, so I thought I'd start one so that any of us that would like/need another place to talk/vent/be heard would have it. I've made some pretty decent friendships on TOL over the last 5 years, so I have no doubt that this thread can be a good place for those of us that need it. I know I need it, since I work 3 weeks at a time without any real chance to catch a meeting.
Bill said in the AA's Big Book that "we are people who normally would not mix. But there exists among us a fellowship, a friendliness, and an understanding which is indescribably wonderful." That's as true at AA meetings as it is here at TOL, so I hope we can all get along, or at least be respectful here.
In tradition with AA, I'd like to keep theology out of here as much as possible. This thread is for those who are staying sober, one day at a time, or for those who would like insight into any aspect of AA. I hope this thread is helpful to even one other person here. :wave2:
325 and counting!! Thankya sir!!
All that matters is that whatever method you use, it works for you. Because alcoholism will destroy you, slowly. Under it's influence, sooner or later you will lose everything and everyone you love. And you will end up in prison, in a hospital, or dead.Been to 47 AA meetings- the only thing that really worked for me was church and my own personal outlook.
Maybe I'm just too self willing, or maybe AA isn't for everyone :idunno:
I always sort of had a problem with the 'alcoholic for life' thing, treating it as a disease- it is unsound from a biblical perspective, at least according to this place downtown which is a discipleship ministry. They take in people with problems ranging anywhere from substance abuse to homelessness, and have an interesting bit to say about it.
I did, for a long, long time after I quit drinking. It also happened for a long time after I quit smoking, too. But eventually they passed. And I no longer think about either one more than once in a while, in passing. And usually my first thought is how grateful I am NOT to be involved with either habit.Do you ever have drinking dreams? Dreams where you drink or try to drink but can't?
Josh!325 and counting!! Thankya sir!!
That is one of the most eloquent statements I've ever heard. And, also, extremely true.Statistically, however, religious recovery programs have a high failure rate. Almost twice that of AA.
Any method that can help an alcoholic get sober, and help him stay that way, is a blessing. But by that same token, it makes sense to use ALL the available tools, and not just the ones that fit in with our personal bias. Because that's exactly the kind of thinking that alcoholics will use as an excuse not to get sober. Or to go back to drinking when they do get sober.
Good job by you too cat loverThat is one of the most eloquent statements I've ever heard. And, also, extremely true.
AA didn't do much of anything for me. Also didn't help that I had (and still have) family members reminding me to "use my crutch" and excuse my drinking.
My divorce and not being able to see my daughters everyday, the very reasons I even got out of bed, was a swift kick in the rear.
Got together with some kindred spirits, we put together a team, and I'm almost two years sober now. I still haven't kicked the cigs, but they're next.
Anyone in here wants to chat sometime, let me know. I'm all ears. And congratulations every darn one of you.
You tooGood job by you too cat lover
I have 2 cats. I love all animals. You must be around some open land?You too
My cats are my motivation and anti-anxiety meds. I don't get up, they don't eat. I don't get up, they have no fresh water (and it's hot out). I actually take pride in "my" feral colony, and my indoor guys and gals (Feral colony is up to about 17 cats, all are "fixed", and I have 5 cats inside the house).
Believe it or not, no. Inner city Phoenix. Turns out, this neighborhood is feral cat overrun. I didn't know that until I got the TNR (Trap, Neuter, Return) program out here. Turns out, my house is just overflow. Another house right up the block is feeding over 30 feral cats.I have 2 cats. I love all animals. You must be around some open land?
Believe it or not, no. Inner city Phoenix. Turns out, this neighborhood is feral cat overrun. I didn't know that until I got the TNR (Trap, Neuter, Return) program out here. Turns out, my house is just overflow. Another house right up the block is feeding over 30 feral cats.
I love all animals, too. I had dogs and cats growing up. I had a dog, big Rottweiler named "Josie" (get it? "Josie and the Pussycats"). Poor girl went into renal failure, and I had to have her put to sleep. Haven't got another one.