Feral Phoenician
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Yeah. My girls loved her, and she got along great with the cats.Kudos to you for helping with the feral cat problem, it's terrible losing a critter
Yeah. My girls loved her, and she got along great with the cats.Kudos to you for helping with the feral cat problem, it's terrible losing a critter
I think it's a very good idea not to try and stop them both, together. I know a lot of people who tried and ended up drinking again because they couldn't stop smoking. Or smoking again because they couldn't stop drinking. Both are very difficult to give up. And doing them simultaneously makes it just that much harder.I still haven't kicked the cigs, but they're next.
Anyone in here wants to chat sometime, let me know. I'm all ears. And congratulations every darn one of you.
I think it's a very good idea not to try and stop them both, together. I know a lot of people who tried and ended up drinking again because they couldn't stop smoking. Or smoking again because they couldn't stop drinking. Both are very difficult to give up. And doing them simultaneously makes it just that much harder.
I was 2 years sober when I finally quit smoking. And I couldn't have done it before then. And I found that sobriety was a great benefit because I understood in advance that quitting smoking meant quitting, not "cutting down". And not 're-negotiating' the decision with every craving. Done with it had to mean done with it, regardless of the discomfort involved. Knowing that helped me quit smoking once and for all, and helped me to stay quit. I knew that one cigarette really meant a whole pack. Just like, for me, one beer means a whole case.
Been to 47 AA meetings- the only thing that really worked for me was church and my own personal outlook.
Maybe I'm just too self willing, or maybe AA isn't for everyone :idunno:
I always sort of had a problem with the 'alcoholic for life' thing, treating it as a disease- it is unsound from a biblical perspective, at least according to this place downtown which is a discipleship ministry. They take in people with problems ranging anywhere from substance abuse to homelessness, and have an interesting bit to say about it.
Yup, yup, and yup!The 12 step program and fellowship grew out of the work of Frank Buchman in the Oxford Movement. His was a group of sincere believers trying to get back the basics of "Christianity". Alcoholics Anonymous and other 12 step programs like it have more in common with the religion OF Jesus than Christianity dose. In fact what we find is that people who went to a few 12 step meetings but then turned to religion never really worked the steps, they never followed the instructions in the Big Book. They deceived themselves by making excuses and turning to religion where one can avoid getting specifically honest about their past. And religious people, no matter how well intentioned, don't understand alcoholics and addicts, so they get played while the addicts become restless, erritable and discontent. Besides, Jesus and his Father are the Loving God of aa. They are in the group conscience of every meeting.
We can say that aa is not for everybody but it was our thinking that got us into trouble in the first place, and wherever we go, if we don't fundamentally change then the chances for long term recovery are very slim. That's just a fact!
Drinking and drugging wasn't our problem, it was our solution. If we do not address the real problem we become uncomfortable in our own skin and eventually return to addiction.
Do you ever have drinking dreams? Dreams where you drink or try to drink but can't?
I struggle with the desire to drink, but I have placed safeguards to keep me from drinking -I have not. When I stopped, I stopped because I was DONE. It's a strange pattern in my life that's happened several times- do something regardless of the consequences and one day just stop. So I think the lack of dreams are due to there not being any lingering desire. :idunno:
I struggle with the desire to drink, but I have placed safeguards to keep me from drinking -
Kicking the alcohol will result in heavier smoking, it's like a law of the cosmos :chuckle:
:chuckle: It seems to be! If I hadn't quit smoking before I quit drinking, I'd be in for it. Smoking is the only habit that still peeks up at me on occasion. SHHHHH don't tell Mrs Deets, lol
I had to quit drinking in order to stop smoking
-after about a month I was able to slowly go back to drinking without smoking
:chuckle: It seems to be! If I hadn't quit smoking before I quit drinking, I'd be in for it. Smoking is the only habit that still peeks up at me on occasion. SHHHHH don't tell Mrs Deets, lol