SwordOfTruth
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I don't hide behind language and semantics. Critical thinking is all that is required here.
In Biblical terms, God made the universe and God also made man. Both then must by definition be perfect creations for a perfect God can only make perfect things unless he deliberately chooses to make an imperfect thing, in which case that imperfect thing is God's will.
If man did something bad or wrong then that was by design. God made man that way, he couldn't do otherwise. So to say that man was responsible for breaking creation is simple folly and wilful denial. Worse still, if God is Omniscient, all-knowing then he knew before he even created man that man would ultimately do what he did, eat from the tree and so on, and yet knowing this, God created man that way anyway.
There are inherent problems with this story. So much so that rationally we should step back and reappraise the story and all it entails. Something isn't straight when that story is taken literally.
Let's take for example the fact that the forbidden tree was placed right there in the same location as Adam and Eve. If God truly didn't want them to eat from it then he could have placed the tree a million lightyears across space and time where they could never see or reach it. But he didn't according to the story. He put it right there where they could get to it, deliberately. And he did this KNOWING in advance that Adam and Eve would subsequently eat from it. Again something is gravely amiss here. This story makes no sense whatsoever when taken literally. So something else must be going on. That something else is allegory. The story represents something else, as indeed does much of Genesis imho.
In Biblical terms, God made the universe and God also made man. Both then must by definition be perfect creations for a perfect God can only make perfect things unless he deliberately chooses to make an imperfect thing, in which case that imperfect thing is God's will.
If man did something bad or wrong then that was by design. God made man that way, he couldn't do otherwise. So to say that man was responsible for breaking creation is simple folly and wilful denial. Worse still, if God is Omniscient, all-knowing then he knew before he even created man that man would ultimately do what he did, eat from the tree and so on, and yet knowing this, God created man that way anyway.
There are inherent problems with this story. So much so that rationally we should step back and reappraise the story and all it entails. Something isn't straight when that story is taken literally.
Let's take for example the fact that the forbidden tree was placed right there in the same location as Adam and Eve. If God truly didn't want them to eat from it then he could have placed the tree a million lightyears across space and time where they could never see or reach it. But he didn't according to the story. He put it right there where they could get to it, deliberately. And he did this KNOWING in advance that Adam and Eve would subsequently eat from it. Again something is gravely amiss here. This story makes no sense whatsoever when taken literally. So something else must be going on. That something else is allegory. The story represents something else, as indeed does much of Genesis imho.