58 Dead, 500 Plus Wounded

Ktoyou

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This would be practical. "The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."

It is the bold part on mental health we do not control for well.
 

chair

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Tell us Jgarden, what's a "high caliber assault rifle"?
Is a .223 a "higher caliber" than a 5.56?
Trick question.

No need to go across the river, the City of Livonia is adjacent to Detroit and only had zero murders for a population of 94,000, about half the size of Windsor.
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Which demonstrates why we should be careful comparing states within the US. Weapons can easily flow acoess state lines, so local regulations aren't very effective.
 

CherubRam

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[h=1]Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Became Muslim Six Months Before Massacre:[/h]https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html
 

Town Heretic

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Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Became Muslim Six Months Before Massacre:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html
From the same article: [FONT=&quot]"There is no indication that there is any link whatsoever. They claim a lot of things," a U.S. official, unauthorized to speak publicly and speaking on condition of anonymity, [/FONT]told Newsweek Monday[FONT=&quot].

Two things. First, of course ISIS, having its tail kicked down the international street, is claiming the shooting. Why wouldn't they? Once law enforcement said they didn't know why he did it, that there wasn't anything left to tell us why it was open season on claims.

Now if it turned out to be true it means what? ISIS is the number one killer of Muslims too.[/FONT]
 

CherubRam

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From the same article: [FONT="]"There is no indication that there is any link whatsoever. They claim a lot of things," a U.S. official, unauthorized to speak publicly and speaking on condition of anonymity, [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="http://www.newsweek.com/isis-claims-las-vegas-shooting-says-stephen-paddock-converted-islam-675504"]told Newsweek Monday[/URL][FONT="].

Two things. First, of course ISIS, having its tail kicked down the international street, is claiming the shooting. Why wouldn't they? Once law enforcement said they didn't know why he did it, that there wasn't anything left to tell us why it was open season on claims.

Now if it turned out to be true it means what? ISIS is the number one killer of Muslims too.[/FONT]


There have been other times when the investigators did not reveal that the shooter was Muslim.
 

Town Heretic

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Meanwhile Republican Congressman Goser of Arizona's 4th (pictured) View attachment 25964 decided to open his mouth yesterday and remove all doubt.

Said Hoser, "Let's look at the person that actually started the (Charlottesville) rally. It's come to our attention that this is a person from Occupy Wall Street that was an Obama sympathizer. So, wait a minute, be careful where you start taking these people...And look at the background. You know, you know George Soros is one of those people that actually helps back these individuals. Who is he? I think he's from Hungary. I think he was Jewish. And I think he turned in his own people to the Nazis. Better be careful where we go with those."

Soros was 14 years old when WWII ended.
:plain:


There have been other times when the investigators did not reveal that the shooter was Muslim.
Anything is possible. But is it probable? And, again, what's the point? That we can't trust anyone? Even rich white guys can turn into crazy terrorists?



 

patrick jane

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Meanwhile Republican Congressman Goser of Arizona's 4th (pictured) View attachment 25964 decided to open his mouth yesterday and remove all doubt.

Said Hoser, "Let's look at the person that actually started the (Charlottesville) rally. It's come to our attention that this is a person from Occupy Wall Street that was an Obama sympathizer. So, wait a minute, be careful where you start taking these people...And look at the background. You know, you know George Soros is one of those people that actually helps back these individuals. Who is he? I think he's from Hungary. I think he was Jewish. And I think he turned in his own people to the Nazis. Better be careful where we go with those."

Soros was 14 years old when WWII ended.
:plain:



Anything is possible. But is it probable? And, again, what's the point? That we can't trust anyone? Even rich white guys can turn into crazy terrorists?



LBJ: " I'll have those n****** voting democrat for 200 years."
 

Town Heretic

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LBJ: " I'll have those n****** voting democrat for 200 years."
That's an assertion made by one guy in a book, but whatever LBJ's motivation, he put his considerable skill set behind passing important Civil Rights law.

Not sure how it relates to the quote.
 

CherubRam

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[FONT=&quot]FBI Source says Vegas Shooter had Antifa Literature, along with photos taken while in the Middle East.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Shooters girl friend.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It is believed that Marilou Danley, may be a Indonesian Muslim.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This is not yet confirmed.[/FONT]
 

Town Heretic

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FBI Source says Vegas Shooter had Antifa Literature, along with photos taken while in the Middle East.

And probably some Roswell literature. A Castro shirt?

Shooters girl friend.
It is believed that Marilou Danley, may be a Indonesian Muslim.
This is not yet confirmed.
:plain: If it's the same "source" for the first, be advised. Here's a link about the girlfriend.
 

CherubRam

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[/FONT]And probably some Roswell literature. A Castro shirt?


:plain: If it's the same "source" for the first, be advised. Here's a link about the girlfriend.

Sorry folks, it is fake news again. So what do we know? well the FBI says they know nothing.

The FBI says they know nothing. If the government will get off their lazy ----- they could put a stop to the rampant fake news. There is so much fake news that people are unable to communicate.

In 2007 the FBI said they knew nothing about Seung-Hui Cho.
 

patrick jane

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The St. Louis Post Dispatch has the names, pictures and age of all 58 victims today. So many people from young to old, they never thought they were at the end of their lives. Very sad
 

Nihilo

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As time goes on, and no motive is established, we are left to conclude that there was no motive.

He was just a psycho.

How do we protect ourselves against psychos?

Bump stocks. Ban bump stocks.

:rolleyes:
 

Tambora

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As time goes on, and no motive is established, we are left to conclude that there was no motive.

He was just a psycho.

How do we protect ourselves against psychos?

Bump stocks. Ban bump stocks.

:rolleyes:
Bump stocks sales will rise now that attention has been made nationally known that they exist and are available to purchase.
 

Nihilo

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Bump stocks sales will rise now that attention has been made nationally known that they exist and are available to purchase.
Understanding that there's little statutory precedent for it, they could wind up being illegal to possess entirely, so it would do little good.

Besides, they're mainly novelty gizmos, and most people could pull the trigger almost as quickly, and fire almost as many rounds per unit time without them.
 

Tambora

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Understanding that there's little statutory precedent for it, they could wind up being illegal to possess entirely, so it would do little good.

Besides, they're mainly novelty gizmos, and most people could pull the trigger almost as quickly, and fire almost as many rounds per unit time without them.
True.
When you are shooting fish in a barrel, it's not hard to hit several with any kind of gun.
 

Ktoyou

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As time goes on, and no motive is established, we are left to conclude that there was no motive.

He was just a psycho.

How do we protect ourselves against psychos?

Bump stocks. Ban bump stocks.

:rolleyes:

Sure, those things have no practical use.

What we really need in to issue a certificate of mental illness. This means two MDs have to agree the person has severe mental illness, one must be a psychiatrist and the other can be a GP. You have the certificate of mental illness, the person can be sent to the mental house, They can also be let alone, but it is very easy to put them in a mental house. The bonus is once a person has a certificate of mental illness, they can never own any firearms.

We need to crack down on mental illness and begin to take it seriously.
 
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