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Nothing there about being spiritually dead. That's talking about the word of God, and that certainly causes us to grow spiritually. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. What about the...

Fix you chapters there. I really enjoyed reading that. It's so appropriate just now.

Yeah, that's where the accusing or excusing part comes in. And there's this. Romans 2:5-10 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his...

Good points all. After the body of Christ is raptured, I believe the difference is that the Lord Jesus Christ will rule on this earth with a physical people (the nation of Israel - Jews). During that time (1000 years) it will once again be a physical people so doing what Christ says will be...

You said, "I don't care what you believe, I care about what you can establish with scripture and plain reason." I do make actual arguments. Not my fault that you don't listen. Rhetorical or not, it's a stupid question. "Do you suppose God would have broken.....? I openly scoff at your...

Then your arguments aren't clear enough to be understood...much less agreed with.

Ah, so which kind of dead would this be? I submit there are allegorical deads. Romans 6:6-7 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. So you don't...

When it's supported by Scripture, it certainly does. No decent counter arguments have been given. Ah, well that's a start, and it's very important to this discussion. You haven't figured out what Paul is saying in Romans 6-8. That's clear. Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the...

I may have. Some of your points must go over my head. Yep, my philosophy exactly. Saying it doesn't make it so. So, you actually think that our Great and all knowing God created a man and didn't know that man would disobey the ONE command he was given? Every heard of forbidden fruit...

I don't know. We set our clocks by the sun. Not sure the point of all this. Probably just too darn dumb. ;)

Don't give it a thought. I'm very patient, and I'm always getting sidetracked myself. The Bible is so full. The older I get the more I want.

Of course in the body of Christ, there is neither Jew nor Gentile. We are SPIRITUAL PEOPLE. That doesn't mean we are the only people of God. The physical Nation of Israel has always been and will always be His Covenant People. God deals differently with them in the past and in the future...

I think it means that they listen to their own conscience....a law unto themselves. On the one hand, God expected man to do works of obedience. Like don't eat the fruit. Like build an ark. Physical works. However, for the church (the body of Christ) we need only believe in order to be...

Of course she can. She can say whatever she wants. Just ask Clete. :cool:

Do you seriously think that comment encourages discussion? Perhaps if you're really interested in getting your point across, you should stop asking stupid questions to begin with. You said, "God's plan was for Adam to obey His command." So you're calling God an idiot. Not too smart.

Seriously, JR? If you have to speak like a robot and act like a robot, you won't get many takers.

Makes you just want to jump right in and play, doesn't it?

Indeed, God created everything. We see time being created right here. Gen. 1:14 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

The "time appointed" was not referring to a woman's menstrual cycle. You're reaching, JR.

You claimed it was a verse "that supports a limited Almighty God." Just plain silly. That's a very lazy response, but it seems to be quite popular. lol