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John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. via the Gospel of Salvation. Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to...

Yep, that it wasn't believing faith after all. Which is why we tell people to examine themselves whether they be in the faith.

The only problem I can see is in the eye of the beholder. Jesus knows those who are His, even if those in the world see an idolator or a reprobate. Therefore, the "abandoning worship of God" can appear to be true to men, but if they were truly saved, they are saved forever.

Persevering in faith is fine....thinking you must do it to remain saved is error.

Instead the lot fell on us. 2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Faulty premise. Try again.

I'm pretty sure he's saying persevering is a work if your salvation is based upon it.

Well, that was back in the day. We did see Jesus dying on the cross depicted all around us, but I never heard saved by grace through faith.

I never once accused you of not believing in God. Paul says a lot of things, including this. Paul gave that instruction, because there are some who think they're saved, but they're not. Don't think for even a minute I'm accusing you of anything. But, it's part of the reason he says for people...

The mass was in Latin when I went.

Ah, well you're free to interpret the Bible however you want. Doesn't mean you're correct, however.

Israel, as a nation, will turn to the Lord in the end days, and they will dwell upon the earth with our Lord sitting on the throne. Lots of prophecy to support that.

Is Baal even a thing?

I think Tam is just in a bad mood. The donkey has kicked in. 🙃

No, look at the context. It's talking about the end days...which means it's talking about Israel.

It was already written in prophecy.

What, no faith that Jesus can finish the work He started in us? Filled and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption isn't good enough? Phil. 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. Promises like the above...

I didn't say that, did I? But I'm confident that He is able to perform what He started in me. My faith is in Jesus Christ....not in myself. Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Don't forget that Paul is speaking of the nation of Israel, not individuals. Clearly there were some individual Jews who accepted Paul's gospel. Then they became part of the church of God.

No, Paul says this: There is neither Jew nor Gentile (Greek).....ye are all one in Christ Jesus. These are the believers (church). Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neithermale nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Colossians...