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Here. Until you can take the challenge presented to you and prove your claim your contributions here are valueless, based in bigotry and ignorance. You have nothing. pj

truth exists wherever you find it...... truth exists wherever you find it...... The problem is you cannot prove it. It like most other religious texts written by men are not perfect, inerrant or final in their revelation. The UB as well does not claim inerrancy or finality of truth, since...

You have not taken my challenge in proving that with the reasonable terms I provided, a golden opportunity I would say in actually proving your assertions. You have nothing but bare assertions, your ignorance of the text makes your position even more incredulous. Remember, the first 5 papers on...

the Spirit alone is Life......... the Spirit alone is Life......... Already covered here. The blood of any animal or human being has no power beyond some life-force transferred thru a ritual or in some figurative sense taken by faith by a believer in what that blood represents. Such is...

recap........ recap........ Here ;) pj

See here (again) - you have yet to take the simple challenge of reading the first 5 papers to educate yourself on what it teaches (its essential theology) for starters, showing what is fictional therein. List the specifics for discussion. 1. The Universal Father 2. The Nature of God 3. The...

the lost years....... the lost years....... The UB contains the most complete record of Jesus life, describing every year of his human life. ~*~*~ Jesus teen age years Jesus travels ~*~*~ Other records have Jesus visiting India, Tibet, Greece, Britian, etc. While the UB extends The...

learning first......... learning first......... No matter your presumption, you are disqualified from offering an informed opinion about a text you haven't acquainted yourself with, spouting from a position of bigotry and ignorance. The challenge was to have the intellectual fortitude and...

The challenge shared earlier is offered to you as well.....read at least the first 5 papers and see for yourself the primary teaching on God, the most fundamental principle of one's theology, if you would educate yourself about that which you are making presumptions about. Otherwise you are...

because i say so syndrome because i say so syndrome Evidence? So have I, and the highest moral ethical teachings of Jesus are espoused. 'Occult' simply means 'hidden, secret, mysterious, esoteric'. Jesus connection with the Essenes is also significant. You'll have to provide evidence for...

blood free atonement...... blood free atonement...... So much has been imposed on Jesus from a blood-atonement perspective, yet his own teachings do not require such, but a true repentance and returning to God. That is all that is essential. Bloodshed is unnecessary. Paul adopted atonement...

seriously....... seriously....... You haven't the intellectual fortitude (so far) to take the simple challenge so remain ignorant .....or prove what is fiction or comic-book material in the first 5 chapters. You have nothing to contribute to the discussion until you accept that most...

read online........ read online........ Wonderful. Remember this thread is about the UB, the proposals made earlier apply to all newbies to the material, recommending a thoughtful reading of the first 5 papers (at least) on the nature of God and his relationship with creation. Papers there on...

Edgar Cayce Edgar Cayce Double post

Edgar Cayce Edgar Cayce Hi pj, See this page here in our Reincarnation thread ( my posts red highlights).....2 referring to Cayce's work. We also had a thread on whether Cayce was a true prophet or not, but it's no longer extant. The Cayce material corroborates very well with the UB...

misplaced agreements...... misplaced agreements...... But your 'agreement' is biased, based on assumptions and ignorance, since you've only 'skimmed' over some of the material without applying a fair effort of study-time to thoughtfully read at least the most significant parts of it. Also...

truth be told...... truth be told...... Greetings all, Beginning with the OP and thru-out the thread, readers have been given ample info. and resources about the Urantia Papers to have at least a precursory knowledge of the material, its origin, contents, cosmology, theology.....how it...

freedom of choice freedom of choice Without getting into complications between Calvinism/Arminianism, the papers explain a wonderful synthesis and cooperation between divine providence and creature free will, maintaining that divine providence respects the sovereignty of individual free will...

the Tao of the Spirit the Tao of the Spirit The papers give a synopsis on the primary religious traditions of our world branching out from Melchizedek here and Ganid gives a description of those religious traditions existing at the time of Jesus here. See those sections on Taoism. The papers...

Culture Club.......... Culture Club.......... See: Urantia cult? Is the UB a cult? As far as getting ideas or expanding from previously existing religious writings, many writers do such, expanding and enlargening religious thought, concepts and ideals,...this is further proved by...