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Versions................. Versions................. ;) But your claim of 'fiction' is based on a comparative of the bible somehow not being fiction, since that's the criteria your providing in the context of the 'claim'. I don't agree, since there is nowhere really that says the Bible as a...

Actually I'm a student of truth, religious philosophy, metaphysics and comparative religions, a 'universalist' at heart, a theosophist in scope, and a gnostic as far as 'experiential' things go, since the individual experience of 'God' is the essential key here, as Jesus himself teaches, since...

what is your ulterior motive here? what is your ulterior motive here? Already addressed this in my previous post, since the revelators are using the gospel accounts and other sources to compile, articulate a more correct, comprehensive account of the life of Jesus. Not sure how much clearer...

Love and war............ Love and war............ You're looking at this one-dimensionally, and bypassing the 'points' I made within the total context of considering the teaching of Jesus and how those are to be applied in this current 21st century with our present world-conditions. To...

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Considering important points and principles...... Considering important points and principles...... My former explanation was quite clear, including the points of 'self-defense' and the question of the benefit of having a 'military' at all, as a means of defending our country against a...

relax, review the greater picture...... relax, review the greater picture...... I've shared my points on this subject earlier, succinctly, but clearly. We can further see if the papers give any light on the subject of war, which it does. Lets keep things in perspective, within the context of...

New OP New OP ~*~*~ Thanks Caino, You changed the OP pic-cover to one of the new UB covers here which looks excellent :thumb: Amazon book review We live in an exciting age for sure! :) Heres a cool one I like as well - pj

intellectual honesty intellectual honesty No GM, you don't have to prove squat to me. The questions above were given for you to honestly consider. pj

self defense self defense I'd have to give this one some thought, but in general I am more of a pacifist, - however,...a nation without a military cant really defend itself against an invasion or attack can it? I see nothing wrong with 'defending' oneself if necessary, so taking those...

4th grade comedy projection....... 4th grade comedy projection....... Not at all. You choose willful ignorance of the papers themselves, with so many other pre-conceived assumptions that your comprehension is retarded. I'd gather many who know me and my caliber of knowledge would find this...

Twisting my words............. Twisting my words............. Hi Sandy, It appears you are 'posing' here under another 'guise' as it were, with an ulterior motive perhaps? Lets revisit my former post to you here and then do some corrections below as you're twisting my words to suit your own...

The Holy One saw no corruption,.....true....... The Holy One saw no corruption,.....true....... I've already addressed and answered your concern over the mortal remains of Jesus and 'corruption' here, and that would mean taking time to understand what the 'morontial' body is. The Holy One of...

popsicles...... popsicles...... Whats wrong with a paraphrased version of something? Can you prove the canonized gospels have all the words of Jesus ever spoke? Can you prove there can be no more additional revelation of truth given to mankind since the canonization of the NT? :p pj

civil discussion............... civil discussion............... 1Mind1Spirit has a way of misconstruing things. If you read this thread, you'll see who the nay-sayers are. I don't think he was referring to you as an alter-ego of me, but added a separate address at the end, just to belittle...

not seeing the forest for the trees....... not seeing the forest for the trees....... Your posts have been properly treated and addressed here so far so readers can make their own evaluations with the data provided. Those looking with a freed mind and clear objective awareness can discern...

Take it or leave it.............. Take it or leave it.............. Hi Sandy, my former posts to you stand, you can address those if interested in responding to any particulars. Not sure what 'quote' your referring to above, I think I explained the revelators statements concerning using the...

Comparing records....... Comparing records....... Hi Sandy, Not sure if you got my last response to you here :) Part 4 of the papers is what it is, an expanded, paraphrased and enhanced version of Jesus life, much from and collaborating the NT gospel accounts. The revelators claim to be...

False assumptions are many above, since I've never claimed to be a final arbiter of truth (that's ridiculous), and am fully cognizant that my sharings are based on my own interpretations, recognitions and perceptions which are indeed 'relative' and 'conditioned' by my own limitations and...

Again, its a matter of understanding what the papers teach in this regard. It is not claiming Jesus is God as defined or assumed by a traditional-orthodox Trinitarian definition, of Jesus being 'God the Son' within an eternal Trinity. The papers do NOT teach that Jesus is 'God' in this manner...