Lon

Merry Christmas, Lon! :cheers:

Thanks for the rep (from a fellow "chosen and elect)!

Thanks for the rep Lon. There's much more work to be done, as this is an on-going war!

:wave:

Hold me accountable!

Likewise! Hope you'll stick around a while! (I'm one to talk!)

Lon, how the heck are ya?

Where have ya been? You are my favorite person to disagree with!

Up all night with Lon -

Checking out of the hotel TOL, but I wanted to say thanks for everything. God bless you and yours and have a very fine one, to the extent possible. :cheers:

See also:
https://archive.org/details/jstor-3155232
https://archive.org/details/jstor-3154923

John Murray said all the below in a simpler fashion: that Christ has two sources of consciousness, one center of self-consciousness.

It might help to know that the orthodox view is that the human and divine wills were never in opposition.

Jesus has two natures. Two sets of knowledge. These natures have distinct properties. The deity is not "humanified" nor is the humanity deified (contra Eutychianism); but not so that he becomes, is, or is said to be two persons (contra Nestorianism).

To claim one will violates Chalcedon, i.e., "...without confusion, without change, without division, without separation; the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union, but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence, not as parted or separated into two persons, but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ; even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us, and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us.".

In Christ, the will belongs to His two natures rather than His person.

"Not My will, but Thine be done"

We can infer the verse the proposition that Christ is truly human. Humans have wills. God also has a will. Christ, being God and man, must then have two wills: a human one, and a divine one.

That Jesus had only one will is the error of monothelitism.

Next up:
https://challies.typeform.com/to/zfV3mn

;)

Late Night Lon

Same score for me. That is the only score for anyone who considers themselves to have a solid grasp on the basics. I found it from post in another forum so I have no claims on it. Pass it along.

A good refresher on the basics of the Trinity in the form of a test:

https://challies.typeform.com/to/I1ntTT

no old ones, but mine is worn out from use

it's a vest pocket NT Original King James C.W.T. Helps Edition red letter edition, self pronouncing text (whatever that means). It's my favorite Bible that I use but it's from 1985. I was going to do a thread about old Bibles, worn out Bibles etc. I just bough a new KJV OT and NT Compact Reference Bible, black leather on sale, but I still find myself using the NT vest mostly. I know right where to open to find any scripture quickly, but I'm not used to the new one yet.